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Something Feels Really Off About Jill Stein's Recount Effort
Pajiba ^ | November 25, 2016 | Dustin Rowles

Posted on 11/25/2016 9:14:46 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote has increased now to 2.1 million votes and counting. She has received more votes than any other white or female candidate in the history of the United States. Indeed, Donald Trump may have garnered more votes than any other Republican in history, but he’s getting trounced in the popular vote. By the time counting has finished, Clinton’s 2+ million vote lead over Donald Trump will be a bigger vote lead than 28 eventual Presidents had over their opponents.

It’s not exactly a landslide (Obama beat McCain by 9 million votes, and Romney by 5 million), but it’s sizable enough that it should erase any question about Donald Trump having a mandate. He does not, and as infighting among his own administration continues and eventually carries over into infighting with the GOP-led Congress (which is inevitable), that will become clear.

What is also clear is this: Donald Trump won the Electoral College. Fair or not, that’s what matters, but now there are attempts being made to cast doubt on even that after Jill Stein decided — after playing spoiler in the general election — to use her standing to challenge the vote counts Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

It’s a Hail Mary, but it’s my fear that it might be the kind of Hail Mary pass that’s picked off in the end zone and ran back for a touchdown. The thing is: I don’t trust Jill Stein. She did not seem to have the best interests of the country in mind during the general election, and I’m not so sure she does now. As much as I’d like to see the election overturned somehow over a recount, I have a sneaking suspicion that this is not about ensuring a fair election, or attempting to sneak Hillary in the back door, but about Jill Stein.

Stein has so far raised $4.5 million in her efforts to force a recount in those three states, although her original goal was only $2.1 million, and then it was $4.5 million, and now it is $7 million, ostensibly to cover legal costs. My guess is that she will get the $7 million, because those of us on the left are desperate for some hope, moreso after each and every cabinet appointment is announced. The $4.5 million that Jill Stein has raised so far, as I understand it, is more than her entire general election campaign raised.

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My fear, however, is that it won’t matter. Maybe — maybe — it results in a win for Hillary in Michigan, where the margin is only 10,000 votes. However, short of unearthing a discovery that might undermine our entire Democratic electoral process in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, it’s not likely to tilt the election back in Clinton’s favor. And when it doesn’t, we have to suffer that humiliating defeat all over again, notwithstanding the popular vote lead we are clinging to as though it can slow the march toward what will surely be the most corrupt Presidential administration in the history of the United States.

Do we really want to be taunted again by Trump and Kellyanne Conway?

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Besides, what would actually happen if the electoral college swung back in favor of Clinton? I mean, I really don’t know. Does she get to take back her concession? Would she even want to? Will the election get tied up for months in legal challenges? Will it fall to the Supreme Court again to decide the election, where it is tied 4-4, which would likely mean the lower court vote stands? Not to mention what might happen with the angry, gun-toting Trump supporters fueled by fake news who might go absolutely apocalyptic in the event that Clinton somehow takes back the White House.

Why does this all feel like a really bad season of Scandal?

We might be better off pinning our hopes (and money) on Foster Campbell, a Democrat set to face off in a run-off election for a Senate seat on December 10th in Louisiana. His hopes of winning are slim (he’s down by 15+ points in one poll), but if Democrats could somehow get a massive turn-out-the-vote effort for an election that probably would have an otherwise low turnout, we could at least narrow the Senate lead to 51-49, which might give us some more hope in weeding out Trump’s hardline, inexperienced cabinet appointments (and preventing Trump from pushing through a wholly incompetent Supreme Court justice).


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; democrats; electoralcollege; hillary; hillaryrecount; recount; sorosrecount; stein; steinrecount
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To: SERKIT

“Hillary/Soros-sponsored recount which will go nowhere”

Or, will it be a justification for increasing the riots?


41 posted on 11/25/2016 10:28:11 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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To: libh8er

Freeze all of their assets...:)


42 posted on 11/25/2016 10:31:37 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like I said on another thread. Pennsylvania seems impossible to change. Trump will have 280 if they flip Wisconsin and Michigan. That will bring the number of electoral college votes to threaten/pay off to less than a dozen. I believe that is the ultimate goal of the recalls.


43 posted on 11/25/2016 10:34:09 AM PST by mouse1
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To: Atlantan

I suspect he is more ignorant of Constitutional law than he is confused. Like all lefties, he i blissfully unaware of how stupid he sounds.


44 posted on 11/25/2016 10:48:00 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: nfldgirl

I would tell my dear DH and anyone else who cared to listen that if Donald Trump should win, it would only because of divine providence, by God’s own intervention in the people’s hearts, as so much was so totally stacked against him, including his own bad behavior at times. Yet, in spite of the odds against him, in spite of the money spent, in spite of it all, he did win, and at about 2:30 that early morning on Nov. 9th, I cried at the wonderful, blessed good news that Donald J. Trump had won the election! Thank you, Dear Lord God!”

Ditto for me.


45 posted on 11/25/2016 11:02:26 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: max americana

The only place Trump doesn’t have a mandate is Cook and LA counties. Take those two out of the mix and Hillary to s down a million or two. Funny how that is always omitted.


46 posted on 11/25/2016 11:20:02 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Election 2016 - Best election ever.)
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To: justlurking

“Now, the shoe is on the other foot. “

I entirely agree.


47 posted on 11/25/2016 2:15:34 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With a little help perhaps from a SORO$ FundingBot? ; 
48 posted on 11/25/2016 4:27:02 PM PST by pollwatcher (I'll have plenty of time to vote Democratic.... after I'm dead...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s surprising, if not shocking, is that a candidate that has Z-E-R-O chance of winning a recount is allowed to file for one. Seems Hillary is just paying someone to do the dirty work for her - again.


49 posted on 11/25/2016 6:31:03 PM PST by Be Free (I believe in gun control. The more people that control their own guns, the safer we'll all be.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote has increased now to 2.1 million votes and counting.

Take away the 3 million illegals who admit they vote and likely voted for Clinton, and Trump is still ahead by 1 million.

50 posted on 11/26/2016 8:41:26 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Clinton's actions speak louder than Trump's words.)
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