Posted on 04/04/2016 7:58:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In his final swing through Wisconsin before the state's Tuesday presidential primary, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said states should be allowed to ban abortion even in cases of rape and incest.
Cruz took questions from Fox News host Megyn Kelly and audience members at a town hall event Monday at the Madison Masonic Center.
Early in the event, a woman who described herself as a moderate, pro-choice Republican told Cruz she's afraid if he becomes president he will outlaw abortion entirely.
Cruz said he wants to see people's hearts and minds changed on the issue. He argued laws should be changed at the state level, not through judicial decisions.
He also said he believes the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision is not settled law, calling it an example of judicial activism.
Kelly then noted that Cruz doesn't favor exceptions to allow abortion in cases of rape or incest.
"When it comes to rape, rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of a person, and needs to be punished and punished severely," Cruz said. "But at the same time, as horrible as that crime is, I don't believe it's the child's fault. And we weep at the crime, we want to do everything we can to prevent the crime on the front end, and to punish the criminal, but I don't believe it makes sense to blame the child."
Cruz took the question as an opportunity to criticize his Republican foe, real estate mogul Donald Trump, who said last week that if abortion were illegal, women ought to be punished for having one.
Trump later walked back his statement, saying he believes abortion should be illegal but that abortion providers and not the women who receive them should be punished
Cruz said Trump's comments were the words of a liberal trying to say what conservatives want to hear. He argued that women are victims of abortion, and said no conservative wants to see women punished.
Over the weekend, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards campaigned for Democratic former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She argued that women are already being punished by laws that make it increasingly difficult to obtain an abortion.
Richards, speaking at a private event on Saturday, said there is "not a daylight of difference between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz and John Kasich" on the issue.
Cruz was joined on Monday by two former presidential candidates now supporting him: Gov. Scott Walker and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina.
He plans to await Wisconsin's primary results at Serb Hall in Milwaukee, according to his campaign.
The full interview and town hall event is set to air Monday night during Kelly's 8 p.m. show.
“And if there is a brokered convention, the GOP will push poor prevaricaTED into the round bin and place someone they choose in the nomination.”
It’s looking more and more that’s what’s going to happen.
The GOPe knows it can’t win, they’re PURPOSELY losing this election.
And I’m NOT leaving the party, starting up some new Republican Liberation Front or whatever, that’s what the GOPe want.
I’m going to stay, and make Rinse, Romney, Grahamnesty and McCain’s lives as miserable as possible.
Evidently you didn’t read my first reply on this thread. And yes, you are a moron.
If you actually have a wife, tell her you’re in charge of her life in every way. If you don’t, then maybe that’s the reason. And tell those abused and neglected children that you personally sentenced to a life of Hell that it was your idea that they lived that way.
I abhor abortion - especially as an adoptee. But I also realize that my mother’s choice was for my good, not hers. Not all women are that caring. And if you were raised in a nuclear family by your biological parents I say you should try to walk a mile in the shoes of others less fortunate. (But I see you lack that capability.)
“Ive had enough of that.”
I’ve had enough of losing.
Cruz won’t beat Hillary.
Hillary will increase federal funding for abortion.
So what are you doing?
“No exception for rape or incest.
I’d guess 90% of America’s women and over 50% of the men disagree with that.
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Rather than just speculating haphazardly, why don’t you just look at references which indicate your position is invalid?
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170249/split-abortion-pro-choice-pro-life.aspx
Oh, and BTW, whether people disagree or not, it is still very much wrong to end the life of an innocent child. I read the Bible, and things don’t bode too well for those who believe otherwise.
Trump said he would not change the laws, wait now, was that last week he said that? Or was that today?
you now are making no sense whatsoever.
I don’t care if it is convenient or not, traumatic to someone or not, no one has the right to murder anyone. Period, no exceptions.
Life is tough for a lot of people, but ending life is not in God’s command.
Is that clear enough for you?
Sorry FRiend, I’ve seen too many neglected and abused children in my years. Several were from rape, one from incest.
Seeing them brought such conflicting emotions - what do you say to them? It will all be ok?
Their lives were heartbreaking. Yes, He teaches us that we need to walk in His ways, and that we should all be more like Him rather than ask for an easier life. But damn...
No wonder you support Cruz.
Is Scott Walker not pro-life?
"and 21% believing it should be illegal in all circumstances"
Rape and incest are those circumstances.
Whether right or wrong, "Pro life" means different things to different people.
That tracks pretty damn close to my estimates.
Yep, I support life and respect God. Do you?
We’ve done GREAT beating about the bush and/or lying the past two elections.
Let’s do it again!
WHY does every republican think this is THE issue that women will vote on?
Not terrorism. Not the coming financial crash. Not the overrun borders.
But sending abortion back to the states and doing something about judges running over every damn state law republicans pass anyway is going to decide it for them?
And That ruse “if so and so democrat wins they’ll do this and that!!! Then how will you feel?”
well ##### that!!
I’m ####ing sick of lying about what we stand for.
geez, dems never apologize and they win.
We think hiding and skirting and apologizing is going to help.
It NEVER does.
People on the right need to grow some.
This primary race is turning into a bore.
Trump has never attacked the motives of ordinary women.
He just trash talks people like Goldman Sachs bankers, Megyn Kelly and Rosie.
Cruz gets excited when megyn giggles at his anti trump jokes.
bro, you think if my mother knew my pop was gonna die when I was 15 and it would lead to a hard ####ing bunch of years, she would have aborted me?
She wouldn’t have. And believe me, those following years were BAD.
No one told me everything was gonna be ok, and I found out life’s not fair early on. But you make the best of it and enjoy the good times. And move forward.
We don’t get to judge ahead of time whose life is going to be so bad that it should be exterminated.
Yes. I support adoption over abortion.
I also understand the mental issues involved with abortion for women, as it is indeed murder.
But rape and incest bring additional issues into that pregnancy that vastly complicate the life of both child and mother. I cannot condemn a woman who may have been severely traumatized by the circumstances of those pregnancies should she decide to terminate.
These are very rare instances, that Cruz is trying to politicize.
What about terminal diseases in an unborn child? There are some circumstances that abortion is understandable to me as an adoptee.
Walker doesnt even care about fiscal issues any more.
http://www.mofopolitics.com/2015/01/27/scott-walker-pro-amnesty-pro-obamacare-anti-austerity/
Both Fiorina and Walker—who endorsed Cruz and were at this event—support the abortion “exceptions” (rape, health of mother.)
Trump endorser Chris Christie supports limiting the 2nd Amendment and the assault weapons ban.
I hear you FRiend. And I have read tons of your replies in here - for a long time.
Let me ask you this as a mental exercise: What do you think if you had been conceived by someone in your blood family raping your mom as a girl, then how would your mom would have felt? That’s what this I about.
It’s easy for us as adults to debate this - and you and I have a lot in common.
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