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Yes, the Delegates Can Decide
The National Review ^ | March 29, 2016 | Rich Lowry, editor

Posted on 03/29/2016 6:55:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump has made his first threat to sue over the procedures for selecting delegates to the Republican convention. It surely won’t be his last.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Ted Cruz may come out of Louisiana with as many as ten more delegates than Trump, even though the mogul narrowly beat Cruz in the popular vote there. In a tweet, Trump pronounced it “unfair,” and worthy of litigation.

The Louisiana delegate picture isn’t evidence of anything untoward. Trump and Cruz both won 18 delegates on election night. Marco Rubio, since dropped out, won five, and another five are uncommitted. The Cruz campaign has done the nitty-gritty work to see that those delegates are likely Cruz supporters.

The only scandal here is that the Cruz campaign, built on grass-roots organizing muscle, knows the process and is working hard for every advantage. Trump’s plaint is a little like showing up at a cricket match and crying foul because the opposing team knows the rules and all you know is that you swing a bat.

The Louisiana flap is a window into the intricate, state-by-state process of picking delegates to a convention in Cleveland where the allegiance of every last delegate might matter. If there is an open convention, Trump will argue that the voters should rule, not delegates no one has heard of, selected at obscure precinct, county, district, and state meetings. He will, in short, declare the entire exercise of a contested convention illegitimate.

Is it? We are used to the voters’ directly deciding, and should Trump perform strongly enough to win a majority of delegates, 1,237, they, in effect, will. But if he falls short, the delegates enter the picture.

The requirement for a majority of delegates (Trump once decried this rule as arbitrary) is meant to ensure that the nominee is, as much as possible, the consensus choice of the party. Ordinarily, this isn’t an issue — the early leader in a nomination fight vanquishes the opposition and steadily consolidates the support of the party.

In 2012, Mitt Romney didn’t lose a contest after March 24. His closest competitor, Rick Santorum, dropped out shortly after losing Wisconsin on April 3, and after that, Romney was racking up victories with 60 percent of the vote or more.

For Trump — who spent last week threatening and mocking Ted Cruz’s wife — this unifying march down the homestretch is hard to imagine. If Trump has only won a plurality of delegates, it won’t be a sign of strength, but of weakness. A badly divided party would be nominating a candidate who couldn’t reach a majority and, so far, has shown no general-election appeal. In this circumstance, delegates would be justified in looking to someone else better suited to win an election and protect the party’s interests.

It’s not unheard of for top vote-getters in America to fall short of the top prize. Otherwise, there would have been a Gore administration. Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000, but still fell short of George W. Bush, who won the Electoral College.

If you count Michigan, where Barack Obama’s name didn’t appear on the ballot, Hillary Clinton very narrowly won the most votes in the 2008 primaries. That was good enough for an appointment as secretary of state — under President Obama, who understood the delegate-allocation rules much better.

Trump has thrived so far without an extensive, traditional political operation. But politics isn’t only about TV interviews and big rallies. There is a reason that the system also rewards candidates who can motivate and muster people to do the grass-roots activism involved in winning small victories at local meetings. This is literally getting people involved in the process, and it could take on an outsized significance in deciding the immediate future of the Republican Party.

Trump would be well-served to complain less about the rules, and learn more.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; cruz; cuckservatives; delegates; globalistcruz; noteligiblecruz; openboarderscruz; tedcruz; trump; wearesocuck
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I'm curious as to your views on this.
1 posted on 03/29/2016 6:55:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do they needs Voters ?


2 posted on 03/29/2016 6:56:44 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would just as soon ben from free republic any National Review stories........


3 posted on 03/29/2016 6:57:41 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So why bother with primary elections? Save all the time and money and go straight to the convention.


4 posted on 03/29/2016 6:57:49 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: blueyon

Correction: I would just as soon ban from Free Republic any National Review stories..............but I know we can not do that


5 posted on 03/29/2016 6:58:59 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, there are no rules. The 1237 thing is what people talk about, but based on the desired outcome, that number can be either higher or lower. Outcome first, then they find a procedure that gets them where they’ve decided to go.


6 posted on 03/29/2016 6:59:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking, but I know what I'm thinking.)
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To: blueyon

If you also ban Conservative Treehouse.


7 posted on 03/29/2016 6:59:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The National Review, ha ha. Keep on dreaming and hoping.
8 posted on 03/29/2016 7:00:28 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If one of the top two Trump/Cruz don't walk out with the nomination, the Republican party is dead forever.

No way millions of voters will show up to support an 'assigned' nominee.

The other problem is that Trump & Cruz are being so damaged by this process, it's going to be a tough road anyways.

9 posted on 03/29/2016 7:02:38 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well America. Just stay home on election day, you are not needed.

They only let you vote to amuse you.


10 posted on 03/29/2016 7:03:20 PM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: butlerweave

I can hear Jeb now: “I love the smell of smoke-filled rooms in the morning”


11 posted on 03/29/2016 7:04:08 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In 2012, Mitt Romney didn’t lose a contest after March 24. His closest competitor, Rick Santorum, dropped out shortly after losing Wisconsin on April 3

Ted could be out by April 3, depending on what twitter digs up in the next 48 hours.

12 posted on 03/29/2016 7:05:12 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The delegates need to look at an electoral map and see who can beat Hillary.

Cruz can’t.


13 posted on 03/29/2016 7:05:19 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Guess coming in 2nd is the new 1st.
14 posted on 03/29/2016 7:07:15 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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I can hear Jeb now: “I love the smell of smoke-filled rooms in the morning”

Won't be Jeb. Even the GOPe isn't that tone deaf. They'll hand it to someone they can delude themselves won't be absolutely hated by the base. As far as the GOPe is concerned Paul Ryan is a staunch conservative Tea Party candidate. Therefore he's an acceptable compromise candidate. They have no idea, but that's a sample of their reasoning.

15 posted on 03/29/2016 7:07:56 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump once decried this rule as arbitrary

It is arbitrary. Should Trump get the most delegates but fail to get the nomination shtf and those of us who write him in will hand the nomination to the dems. Convince me to vote otherwise please.

No really, try to convince me and every other person who wants trump that their nomination amounts to a pile of pig sh8t and that now we should vote for whomever the GOP decides is good enough for us.

I'm not addressing this to you 2nddivisionyet so please don't take offence, but rather anyone who wants to answer.
16 posted on 03/29/2016 7:08:00 PM PDT by irishMN
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To: MaxFlint

Twitter? Hahahahaha!


17 posted on 03/29/2016 7:08:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Rational Thought

I thought 3rd was that sweet spot this year...

Seems like it has been since IA.


18 posted on 03/29/2016 7:11:48 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: butlerweave

Because we live in a republic, not a democracy.

We elect representatives to make decisions that we do not have full information on at the time we cast our ballots. In the case of primary elections, voters in the early states didn’t know which of the 17 candidates would be left at this stage of the race. So the delegates of the candidates who have dropped out have now have to decide which of the remaining candidates best represent their constituents.


19 posted on 03/29/2016 7:13:28 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump’s plaint is a little like showing up at a cricket match and crying foul because the opposing team knows the rules and all you know is that you swing a bat.

It's more like being taken to court and not given a lawyer.
20 posted on 03/29/2016 7:14:06 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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