Posted on 02/25/2016 9:05:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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You’re kidding yourself if you think someone who grows up in the family biz is self-made just because he doesn’t officially inherit his hundreds of millions until his midlife.
Trump’s clearly an accomplished guy, but no reason to go with the “self-made” fiction.
Exactly... Welfare queens, living off the sow's teat of US. And they both give the Hispanic voters an ugly image. Nothing conservative about either of them. Lazy bums.
He has been annointed by the GOPe to
1. Maintain the status quo in Washington.
2. Expand the cheap-labor express immigration programs for the Chamber of Commerce and Silicon Valley.
3. Carry the torch of the open borders globalists.
He is a silver-tongued fast talker.
I should note I left Dr. Carson out of the non-politicians running. No disrespect meant, but it doesn’t seem like he’s going any further.
I have been contacted twice in 3 days here in NC on my political leanings.
Buried right in the middle of the questions is the Chamber of Commerce.
Bastards get nailed by me.
I have been contacted twice in 3 days here in NC on my political leanings.
Buried right in the middle of the questions is the Chamber of Commerce.
Bastards get nailed by me.
Do you recall the specific question regarding the Chamber of Commerce?
Interesting but sadly not surprising. I usually don’t answer my house phone...I let the answering machine take the calls. However, I may start answering now...would love to hear some of these lame polls!!
It’s mostly the local 36 district. About the 4th question they ask about the chamber. It starts with the Pres primary.
Interesting...I suspect a lot of groups use similar template, so I will be on the lookout for polls like these.
People are being fooled big time!
Calls are originating out of Gaston County.
I’ll say this much. They are wondering if there is a connection.
Well, you did your part ;)
Like I said, I am going to make a part of answering my phone!
Think about this more deeply.
Every President "inherits" our country, a multi-trillion dollar going concern. He does not build a new country from scratch. He has to work with the country he gets. Trump is better at that.
It may look harder to build something from scratch, but you don't have to bring a lot of excess baggage with you, and you don't have to do things you don't like.
Trump's experience is far closer to the real situation he will get.
Romney is self made?
His father, George Romney, invented crony capitalism.
Donald Trump was already a 52-year-old billionaire by the time his father died.
If Cruz said that, everyone would be shouting that he just insulted watch salesmen.
Open borders establishment puppet weasel say whut ?
I think it’s very creepy for a presidential candidate to belittle and insult sales people, which is an honest living.
Yes, Trump leveraged inherited wealth and a good upbringing/education to do big things and multiply his wealth many times. To his credit.
He didn’t have to do anything with it, he didn’t owe anyone anything.
Criticize his policies as forcefully as you can, but mocking his accomplishments just makes you look small
Trump was born on third base and always takes credit for hitting a triple.
And you’d be selling eggs on the streets if it weren’t for your being a Cuban in lil Havana.
How much seed money do you think is needed to develop a 1,200-unit apartment building in a high-cost market? A million is not that much in a business of that scale.
Number one: he borrowed $1 million capital from his father, whose business had been in the Outer Boroughs of New York (dense residential areas, but flatter and less dense than Manhattan) and, living out of a one-room apartment, started his own business in Manhattan in 1971, a much more difficult environment because the cost per-square-foot is much higher than the boroughs.
By his late 30s, he had paid his father back and had created the Trump Organization development business in Manhattan, making a land deal for the Convention Center, developing the Wollman rink in Central Park, the Plaza and the Commodore Hotels, Trump Tower and other projects.
His father lived until his 90s, dying in 1999. His father's approximately $3M estate was split with his three surviving siblings, so the share that Donald Trump inherited came much later, when Donald was around 50 years of age.
The difference between the one or two million from his father and the $4 billion (his detractors claim to $10 billon he claims to be worth today is astronomical. Trump's business is entirely privately owned and does not have public shareholders or government ownership. Rubio's jab that he would be selling pencils without that capital from his father is ludicrously laughable. The man's energy alone -- at nearly 70, he has criscrossed the country giving one to five appearances a day for the past 8 months -- would have driven him to some form of success had he started with nothing but a dime.
Somehow, this capitalist development of financial and real property makes him a leftist? How do you figure that? He may have been socially liberal in the past, but it's been apparent to me he has been a closeted conservative for a long time, such as his $1 million donation to veterans in the 1990s and his fight ten or fifteen years ago with the city of Palm Beach, which attempted to fine him $150,000 for his "too large" American flag at Mar-a-Lago. He negotiated with them and ended up not just retaining his flag, but donating $100,000 to wounded vets to allow the Palm Beach property snobs to "save face." He changed his position to pro-life also ten or fifteen years ago, and the rumors of cheating seem to have vanished after he met Melania 18 years ago. They seem very happy together. His grown children are entirely a credit to him, and he adores the memory of both of his parents and had a happy childhood, in spite of being a handful.
What encourages me about how he would govern is that he does watch polls and read public opinion, something our legislators in DC have totally ignored. In state after state over the past decades, 60% to 70% of the people voted, for instance, to uphold traditional marriage, only to have the will of the people overturned by liberal court decisions. Same with Obamacare, transgender bathrooms, women in combat --a host of leftist programs that the GOPe has gone along with -- that have been imposed on us. I believe that a Department of Justice and the bully pulpit under Donald Trump would fight against these kinds of abuses. He would want to strike at least a middle ground, in his habit of deal-making, rather than force the majority Christian base of the U.S. to be rolled under by minority trends.
He tried to explain these basics of negotiation at the debate in answer to the hard-nosed declarations of Cruz and Rubio about Israel -- that while you may support one side, you don't go into the situation announcing that you are going to trash the other side if your goal is to achieve peace without warfare -- but they could not hear or understand him. Yet these principles are Negotiation 101; at least in my own graduate course in the topic and years of business experience.
The people on this forum who say they are Christian, which by definition means they believe that conversion is possible and forgiveness, mercy, long-suffering and non-judgmental of God's work in another's soul seem to be the least willing to believe that Trump could, indeed, have grown beyond his liberal past.
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