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No Love Lost Between Ted Cruz and Donald Trump Supporters
The New York Times' First Draft ^ | February 19, 2016 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 02/19/2016 10:49:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. -- Speaking just six miles apart on Friday morning, Donald J. Trump and Senator Ted Cruz of Texas renewed their bitter personal feud, while their supporters echoed the candidates' language and themes - a sign that the bitterness between the two men has now seeped deeply into the feelings of voters.

Mr. Trump called Mr. Cruz "the biggest liar I've ever seen," a line he has been pushing all week. Trump supporters, some of whom said they had once considered supporting the Texas senator, largely agreed with Mr. Trump's harsh assessment.

"I'm very disappointed in Ted Cruz because of the way he's going after other opponents, and some of the things I don't think were actually fair," said Ken Ivey, a retired contractor who waited in line to hear Mr. Trump.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Cruz mocked Mr. Trump's vague generalities. "It's easy to say 'make America great again,' " he told supporters in a room overlooking the ocean. "Do you understand what made America great in the first place?"

An attendee, Mike Loebs, echoed his candidate, complaining of Mr. Trump, "He's all yadda yadda yadda."

"He has nothing specific," added Mr. Loebs, who retired after 30 years in the Navy. "I think he's a bully. If you don't agree with him, you're fat, dumb or ugly."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: piytar

We are of similar viewpoint.
I very much like Ted Cruz and I very much like Donald Trump.
Either of those men would be a far better POTUS than Bernie S., Hillary C., Joe B., or Elizabeth W.


41 posted on 02/19/2016 11:33:49 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

“This REALLY sucks. i’m an Iowan and heavily disabled so couldn’t get to the caucuses but when the general comes around guess I’ll vote for Cruz.”

You won’t have Cruz as a choice, as Trump is going to be the Republican candidate for Prez, not Cruz. Trump is on the cusp of winning the Primaries, by a wide margin.


42 posted on 02/19/2016 11:34:48 PM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP ROCKS)
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To: flaglady47

As I said on the eve of Iowa... lets not count our chickens before the hatch...

Right now GOPe hacks like Rick Wilson are on twitter celebrating like Rubio has already won.

We have Cruz supporters on this forum and Twitter acting like the world is over...

Something is going on in SC and the Rubio people are over-joyed and that gives me pause...


43 posted on 02/19/2016 11:37:00 PM PST by SteveSCH
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To: SteveSCH

“If we don’t get it together say hello to nominee Marco Rubio.”

Post of the Day. Finally, some sanity.


44 posted on 02/19/2016 11:37:11 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Just say NO to Rubio and open borders!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bitter as they may be to one another, either would be far and away better than the other choices. I just pray we don’t let infighting give us another Romney or McCain by default.


45 posted on 02/19/2016 11:38:43 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: 4rcane

Cruz supporters don’t care. They’ll either stay home or write Cruz in and vote ‘on principle’, thus their conscience is clear. Because apparently practical reality means nothing to them.


46 posted on 02/19/2016 11:38:43 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bitterness? One particular rabid Trump supporter called all Cruz supporters “...evil and immoral...”. That’s WAY beyond bitter, that’s total derangement. The only way that kind of attitude makes any sense is if was the Donald himself that said it.


47 posted on 02/19/2016 11:43:14 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: flaglady47
I don't mind voting for Trump. In fact we all have 19 Trillion reasons to vote for a businessman over the usual corrupt politico's.

Politicans got us into this fix and it looks like only businessmen can get us out of it.

The only sticking point I would have with any of the R's would be Rubio and his gang of 8 history. That was a revolting deal. Illegal felons got a free stay with no jail time. All deportations were to stop instantly and each illegal was to be provided an attorney to help fight the deportation. And a LOT of other truly ugly features.

I'd have to think long and hard about casting that vote.

48 posted on 02/19/2016 11:44:34 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How can they say that? It’s been nothing but kind and gentle...


49 posted on 02/19/2016 11:45:31 PM PST by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone seems to think that the current MUDSLINGING is something new. The public has a very short memory.


50 posted on 02/19/2016 11:45:33 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

I’m sitting here thinking about the 50%-60% tax rate that’s going to be stolen from them to pay down this kind of deficit/debt.


51 posted on 02/19/2016 11:46:48 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

err stolen from my grandchildren. They’re 6, 9 and 13 now.What’s the deficit/debt going to be like in 25 yrs? 40-50 trillion?


52 posted on 02/19/2016 11:48:48 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dissapointed in Cruz because of the way he has gone after opponents. Then he’s supporting Trump. Really? Really?


53 posted on 02/19/2016 11:48:49 PM PST by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I suspect what's going on here is nothing compared to what was going on in the late 1700's. They weren't exactly hugging eachother.

My only request is that the Cruz supporters, and I am one, just less so that Trump ... if name calling is to be your sole form of argument, at least come up with funny misspellings of Trump's name.

It's funny that the Cruz supporters say 'if you disagree with Trump, your called fat, ugly etc.

My experience is that the Cruz supporters here behave exactly as they accuse Trump of behaving. Only, while it's an aspect of Trump's debate style, it's their only debate style.

And, they are not good at it. In fact, it's as if they subconsciously want to be him but since they can't, settle for a dilluted imitation.

54 posted on 02/20/2016 12:01:42 AM PST by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: central_va

First he has to get the nomination, and as long as he is no where near 50% it ain’t gonna happen. Had he not burned Cruz so badly, he may have salvaged Cruz’s delegates. Now if Cruz comes in third, he will pledge them to Rubio. Cruz or Rubio as things stand today. Trump may have the most delegates in a six party field, but he won’t as people bow out.


55 posted on 02/20/2016 12:09:54 AM PST by pnut22
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trumbama is a liberal trying to pass himself off as conservative. Most of his supporters lack the intelectual gravitas to recognize his pandering for what it is.


56 posted on 02/20/2016 12:17:24 AM PST by exnavy (good gun control: two hands, one shot, one kill.)
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To: exnavy

Amen, Brother.

Your typical rabid Trump cultist isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.


57 posted on 02/20/2016 12:26:18 AM PST by Oklahoma
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To: SteveSCH

I read Rick Wilson’s tweets. All I saw was wishful thinking


58 posted on 02/20/2016 12:32:05 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: dp0622
Is there this much hatred every primary. I never followed one before and it's very off-putting.

Google "Herman Cain presidential campaign."

59 posted on 02/20/2016 12:36:38 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - already voted for Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: Ciexyz

I will see your paid off Goldman Sachs loan and raise you bank of America, Goldman Sachs, about 50 other loans and two Saudi Roialty bailouts!

Meet the call or fold poser.


60 posted on 02/20/2016 12:42:53 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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