Posted on 02/15/2016 9:57:09 AM PST by entropy12
The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush, Trump growled. He kept us safe? That is not safe. Technically true, but, as is so often the case with Trump, the details came second to theme, and the theme went far beyond 9/11 or the gasps and boos Trumps comments brought. Trump slapped W on Iraq, too. The war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake. They lied, he said of Dubyas administration. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none found.
Trump is saying that, under George W. Bush, the Republican Party allowed its understanding of politics to be corrupted. For whatever reason, under Bush, the GOP became a party that let self-aware rhetorical posturing dictate the way policy was formulated. The result was failure across the board. Worst of all was the ensuing failure of memory as Republicans forgot the winning arts and sciences. In so doing, they enabled America to lose its way in the hall of mirrors — and lose its greatness.
This is a dagger to the heart of the Bush legacy.
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My point is Trrump is parroting what the most vile lefties have had as their agenda for years.
The stupid part about destroying the ISIS capability to sell the oil means destroying the oil generating facilities from the producing wells, the pipeline system and the refining. When this is all gone there is nothing to take as real estate magnate does realize. It would cost trillions of our money to rebuild the infrastructure to go back online. Not worth it.
It is easy to talk big but he knows nothing about the oil industry, oil production, equipment, production theories, transportation and refining. Just destroy the damn stuff and they will starve and I wouldn’t spend one more dime of our treasure to rebuild it.
Soros and company gave us Obama.
I am very disappointed with what Trump said. He didn’t just say history has shown that the Iraq war was a mistake, no, he said that Bush knowly and deliberately lied that there were WMDs in Iraq, all to start a war. This is a leftwing talking point and the real lie as well.
Everyone’s intelligence services, everyone’s (even those countries who didn’t support the war) said Saddam had WMDs and was continuing to develop them. We had just been recently attacked on 9/11. We saw firsthand that we were vulnerable. We COULD NOT afford to ignore Saddam’s regime - which was openly supporting terrorism in the Middle East. Whether or not he had anything to do with 9/11 was beside the fact. He also had repeatedly violated the Gulf War UN peace agreement and was not allowing weapons inspectors free access. Saddam brought the war on himself.
I do fault W’s handling of the post-war period and the ROE our troops had to deal with, but I do not fault W from taking out Saddam. I blame Obama for allowing Iraq and Afghanistan to determinate and allow ISIS to take root, not W.
No. I said it so the very instant it happened. When Paul Bremmer announced they were disbanding the Iraqi army and banning all Bathe party members from government, I said at that very instant, you have just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I instantly predicted the subsequent violence we witnessed.
I told anyone who would listen, "We invaded so easily because Iraqi's hearts weren't really in to it. They wanted Saddam gone. Now we have given them reasons to hate us. "
By disbanding the Iraqi army, and banning all Bathe party members, you have just given them a reason to want us dead. Suddenly we were not liberators, but occupiers.
I told anyone that would listen "You have just informed the most dangerous and capable people in Iraq, that they will never have a future so long as we remain present in their country. " We gave their most capable soldiers and officers reasons to try and kill us.
The bombs started going off a few days later, and the bloodshed had commenced, and it was all thanks to that IDIOT Paul Bremmer and his boss, George W. Bush.
Disbanding the Iraqi army, and banning Bathe party members from their jobs was probably the stupidest political decision of this century until Barack Odumbo came along and exceeded it.
Ditto...thank God for them. I feel so awful that our youth has been so mired in wars our leaders will not let them do what they're trained to do and win.
But the circumstances around the failures post “Mission Accomplished” provided the opening...
I was in favor of both Wars. The only mistake we made is not taking off Saddam's head in the first one.
The Mistake we made in the Second one was disbanding the Iraqi Army and banning Bathe party members from government. That and trying to force Christian ideas of equality onto a Islamic culture.
You are where most Americans are... and its the lack of the GOPe and others to move to reality on this that has cost them many elections and will continue to if they won’t admit the truth.
No reasonable, thinking human being can look at Iraq today and remotely conclude the war was worth it.
I supported the invasion into Afghanistan, but Iraq was just wrong and Trump is right. Bush isn’t the only ‘conservative’ who fooled most of us.
Something some of us tried to discuss back then was the FACT that George Bush was using the National guard as his invasion force and put them on several tours of duty in Iraq. This is NOT what the guard is for! It destroyed these young people. Ever wonder why Bush was so pro illegal alien/Cheap foreign labor? IF he kept plenty of aliens here to do work, our kids had no choice but enlist.
Sadly I’ve seen all too much of this anti-conservativism at FreeRepublic lately. I’m bookmarking this thread and will return in six months or so to see who is still here and who have been eased down the road.
Women also use PP for Birth Control consultation, Gyn issues.
Parroting the vile Code Pink stinks.
Something happened between Bush, Cheney, and Collin Powell during this whole Iraq thing!!! If you all remember it was Collin Powell who stood on front of congress with the films of the trucks moving all around with supposed WMD’s !!!! I would LOVE to know what happened there Powell completely changed after this Iraq deal!!!!
We should have made it clear that once we moved into Iraq that we were going to stay there for at least twenty years and occupy the country. Because anything short of that guaranteed that whomever replaced Saddam was going to be at least as bad, if not even worse, or that Iran would simply take over Iraq. Short of that, we should have never gone in.
The use the Godfather analogy, Saddam was a pimp, but it was Iran all along.
Yep, birth control like abortions.
Well if you consider, Cruz as “Conservative” because is a liar in chief. Then anti-conservatism is a good thing.
I knew several girls when I was young, that had it done. I knew of so many, I started to think it was a racket--
More than likely if it were not for the affordable services the education and public awareness provided to girls without support --many of those cases would have gone on to turn into full blown cervical cancer, like a girl I worked with in my early 20s who had cervical cancer and she was only 25.
I am not saying what I saw on those videos was not pure evil. It was. But, we don't gain any credibility claiming all PP does is provide abortions.
You either do not remember your history, or you never learned it.
Who cares about Kuwait? Who cares about the Sudetenland?
Do you have any idea who was Salidin?
That's who Saddam thought he was, and who he very well intended to be. Kuwait was an appetizer. If we had let him keep it, Saudi Arabia was next, and they knew it.
You are not woman, ask your wife about it.
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