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John Boehner vs. the 'crazies': Should GOP just let tea party win?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 27, 2015 | Mark Sappenfield, Staff writer

Posted on 09/27/2015 9:22:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

John Boehner is leaving as speaker because he can't control the tea party. Should the whole GOP give in? It has happened before.

The Republican Party is barreling head-first toward a worst-case scenario – or is that a best-case scenario?

The tea party wing of the party has essentially toppled House Speaker John Boehner. His replacement will almost certainly need the tea party's stamp of approval.

Meanwhile, the Republican presidential campaign continues to confound the establishment. Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Ted Cruz together have more support than all other Republican candidates combined, according to polls....

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Ohio; Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: boehner; cruz; defactodemocrats; gopestablishment; johnboehner; liberalagenda; liberalgop; ohio; rinos; speakerboehner; speakerjohnboehner; teaparty; trump
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1 posted on 09/27/2015 9:22:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Let” TEA and conservatives win? Interesting, they truly believe we should simply accept them as the legitimate position and follow them.
Why do they never expect they should do the same?


2 posted on 09/27/2015 9:27:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this clearly says something. To them, GOP simply does not mean conservative. That is our delusion, not theirs.


3 posted on 09/27/2015 9:28:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boehner is not correct in calling the base or conservatives crazy. He’s denying he’s a liar.

Do any of us rightly think the government is going to stop the money laundering that goes on through PP, the unions and the welfare state? The transfer of taxes to favored interest groups?

No, not without bloodshed and an armed struggle from those being cut off.

However as a matter of principle it is the right thing to do to collectively make people put their stamp on approval of where they stand. Does Obama put his stamp of approval on shutting down the government over cutting PP? Oh yes, we all know he does.

Make him own it. Make the talking heads and the Democratic party say once and for all.... abortion and the trade in embryonic remains trump whatever positive the rest of government does in their eyes.

This case is so obvious, so ridiculously simple that the fools can’t see it.

Every single one of us has seen movies or TV shows with massive fog landscapes and people with searchlights and flashlights coming through it as easily identifiable targets. This is what you make the Democrats and Obama do. Make them impossible to miss in the fog of politics.

Make them identify themselves for the rest of the nation to see while they can’t see the nation.


4 posted on 09/27/2015 9:33:07 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about you let no one win and follow what the voters want. If they want Boehner and Rubio and Bush then they will vote for them, but it does not appear that is what the voters want this year.


5 posted on 09/27/2015 9:33:18 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The GOP is the guardian and protector of the democrats.

The Democrat party are a nest of vampires, and the GOP are their familiars.

The GOP are the ones that handle business while the sun is up.


6 posted on 09/27/2015 9:36:06 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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“Should the GOP let ... Should the whole GOP give in ... “

To paraphrase that grim cyborg, Robo Cop:
“GOP—dead or alive, you’re coming with us.”


7 posted on 09/27/2015 9:39:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Why yes, how about letting the BASE determine how the party is run?


8 posted on 09/27/2015 9:40:11 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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Crazy...
Fiscal responsibility
Reining in a lawless, out of control fedzilla
Ending corporatism
Normal marriage
Local control of education
Personal choice and responsibility
Peace through sip ulterior firepower
Ending the stranglehold of federal regulation

Right. That’s just plain “crazy.”


9 posted on 09/27/2015 9:42:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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That’ “superior firepower,” of course.


10 posted on 09/27/2015 9:43:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell me one victory the TEA party can lay claim to under No balls Boner?


11 posted on 09/27/2015 9:45:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Let” ?


12 posted on 09/27/2015 9:50:00 PM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone hates the Tea Party except the American people.

Pray America is waking


13 posted on 09/27/2015 9:50:06 PM PDT by bray (If Obama had a son he would be a cop killer.)
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Should they “give in” and reflect the values of party members whose votes they demand??? Heaven forfend!


14 posted on 09/27/2015 9:50:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!Just read)
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How can the TEA party be responsible? Weve been told for years they’ve got no power, it’s over for them, they are washed up.

This is just total bs propaganda kabuki to conveniently blame their “enemies”.

Boner has been one of the absolute worst speakers with an (R) behind his name. Total embodiment with the RINO/GOPe.


15 posted on 09/27/2015 9:52:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lefty Christian Science Monitor should be called The Lefty Science Monitor


16 posted on 09/27/2015 10:29:29 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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The Tea Party died in 2011. It was in all the papers...


17 posted on 09/27/2015 10:43:18 PM PDT by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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When Barry Goldwater won the Republican presidential nomination in 1964, the base exulted. Here was a true conservative. Here was a man who would not compromise. Here was a man of rare vision. …
And here we go again. The man was very, very quiet on social issues back during his campaign against Johnson. It was only later that we found out what he really stood for; leopards do not change their spots.
18 posted on 09/27/2015 11:10:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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What is it that the Tea Party wants that they don’t want?


19 posted on 09/28/2015 12:12:23 AM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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If that’s what it takes for Congress to do its damn job and stop/reverse the devolvement of this country by Obama’s actions, spending and insane laws, then HELL YES - the GOP has to capitulate to somebody else besides Obama and Democrats - Conservatives.


20 posted on 09/28/2015 2:17:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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