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1 posted on 08/08/2015 10:49:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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The two main things I learned from the debate was that Walker & Bush will never be POTUS. Both were Bo-ring. And Trump needs to do his home work. Some of his answers to important questions like Iran had no substance. He needs to do better.


2 posted on 08/08/2015 10:53:39 PM PDT by lodi90
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Look, this Trump ‘thing’ has disrupted the normal insider game where the lobbyists and special agenda people talk money, positions, and get their guy in line with their agenda. Trump won’t be dictated to, or led around by these guys. Fox News is being used to hustle Trump out, but apparently their ‘Fair and Balanced’ routine isn’t being bought by apparently half of the Fox viewers (we got smart over the past six years).

Trump is going to be around for the remainder of 2015, and put a severe ‘hurt’ on Iowa and New Hampshire. He might actually be able to hustle up fifteen state wins during the primary. But don’t worry....convention rules allow almost one unassigned delegate for each sent by state primaries....which means that the VIP guys will ensure that Trump can’t win at the convention.

I think a quarter of all Republicans will be disgusted with the convention outcome, and vow not to support who wins. And no, I don’t think it works for Hillary because she’s likely in legal trouble and some unknown character will emerge by Iowa to reshape the whole Democratic contender thing.


3 posted on 08/08/2015 10:57:05 PM PDT by pepsionice
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I saw no mention of the real Conservative in the race, Ted Cruz, in the entire steynonline article. That's very telling.

And, really, what does it matter how a Canadian thinks? If he's oh-so-very “concerned” about America, why doesn't he become a real American instead of just living here and pontificating. I realize that Mark Steyn is wildly popular here so flame away on that latter point.

4 posted on 08/08/2015 10:59:29 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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Nailed it.

The issue isn’t trump. The issue is this statist loser Republican Party.


9 posted on 08/08/2015 11:12:47 PM PDT by Yaelle
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Steyn nails it here...

Only in the US have the parties been set in aspic for a century-and-a-half. Unlike either Commonwealth or European countries, America has a rigid, institutionally entrenched two-party system. If you're an American first and a Republican voter second and you seriously believe in the central proposition of Trump's candidacy - that the endless flood of mass unskilled immigration is putting the very nation at stake - why would you put party over country? Why commit to supporting, say, Jeb Bush who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love"? Many electors agree with Trump - that America is dying before their eyes. If that's the case, why should fealty to a party that bears a large measure of responsibility for that decay take precedence over love of country?

The reality is that the GOP establishment, after their appalling behavior in the Hastert years, were given a second chance by the base in 2010, and a third chance in 2014. Now they're demanding a fourth chance - and people go, well, say what you like but a Republican president will at least get to appoint rock-ribbed Supreme Court justices, like, er, John Roberts, who constitutionalized Obamacare, and, um, Anthony Kennedy, who gave us federally mandated gay marriage. Boehner, McConnell, Kennedy, Roberts... Not much to show for a party that's been supposedly dominant for 35 years, is it?

The GOP thinks the issue is Trump; much of the base thinks the issue is the GOP.

11 posted on 08/08/2015 11:14:51 PM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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Mark Steyn is writing what I’m thinking just all the more elegantly and with a British accent. The GOP-E just don’t get it. They aren’t even close to the Gingrich or Delay levels. They are just rolling over trying to look like they are “governing” aka not being confrontational in any real way so as not to get anyone thinking that they might really be going to upset the Obama apple cart of crap once he’s gone. If we aren’t going to have leaders that present a real opposition party what is the value of voting Republican? We get justices like Kennedy and Roberts who both should be impeached both for different reasons.

There is the feeling that we are at the Rubicon. Obama has nearly wiped out all that had been accomplished by Reagan and even by the Gingrich congress post 1994 prior to GW Bush. Culturally we’ve gained on the issue of abortion while losing the battle through Obamacare. We have real strongholds in some states but they are increasingly threatened by the ever encroaching federal beast which now even controls how states license marriage.

Anyone who thinks there is an incremental way back from this is fooling themselves. Its like playing a game knowing you are being cheated and just accepting it. Look at how many GOP candidates just accept political correctness defined in left wing terms as if it is the only natural way things can be and the worst of them not only accept it but they feed it and rush out to declare “I’m not a bigot like that guy!”, “I’m not a sexist like that guy!” and on and one like pathetic wimps hoping to curry some advantage in the eyes of the ever sanctimonious and duplicitous media.


12 posted on 08/08/2015 11:15:03 PM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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Most Boring Steen Commentary Ever Award.


16 posted on 08/08/2015 11:21:24 PM PDT by Calpublican
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“Comments?”

I don’t get cable and our local radio “hosts” chose to discontinue Hannity’s radio program

(I couldn’t listen anyway... more commercials than content and really only seemed to have 10 coherent minutes per hour)


24 posted on 08/08/2015 11:27:28 PM PDT by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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Mark hit this one out of the ballpark. The GOPe needs to be overturned & that’s a tall order considering how utterly corrupt it has become.


25 posted on 08/08/2015 11:27:55 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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I love Mark Steyn. I would have his babies. Lots of them. Like litters of puppies.

Unless he started singing show tunes. Then the baby shop would close up and turn the lights off.

29 posted on 08/08/2015 11:31:41 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven.)
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“We keep being told by the experts that Trump is a divisive figure with a low ceiling, but the ceiling keeps going higher - 22, 24, 26 per cent, over thirty per cent in certain states, which is impressive in a 17-man field.”

LOL!


46 posted on 08/08/2015 11:59:20 PM PDT by beaversmom
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He sums it up SO beautifully. They truly don’t realize how sick of their crap we are. :

“The reality is that the GOP establishment, after their appalling behavior in the Hastert years, were given a second chance by the base in 2010, and a third chance in 2014. Now they’re demanding a fourth chance - and people go, well, say what you like but a Republican president will at least get to appoint rock-ribbed Supreme Court justices, like, er, John Roberts, who constitutionalized Obamacare, and, um, Anthony Kennedy, who gave us federally mandated gay marriage. Boehner, McConnell, Kennedy, Roberts... Not much to show for a party that’s been supposedly dominant for 35 years, is it?

The GOP thinks the issue is Trump; much of the base thinks the issue is the GOP.”


48 posted on 08/09/2015 12:03:32 AM PDT by beaversmom
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EL Steyn is monolithic, but what is a "Hannity?"
52 posted on 08/09/2015 12:13:18 AM PDT by Reverend Saltine (Don't say, "the administration," or "the EPA"--say "OBAMA." Give him full credit)
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“The GOP thinks the issue is Trump; much of the base thinks the issue is the GOP.”


54 posted on 08/09/2015 12:18:38 AM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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Enough has been said about Trump, I won’t rehash.

I thought Walker missed his chance to become the main alternative to Trump. He may not get another. He had the most to gain and didn’t.

I keep hearing the talking heads say how great Rubio was, I still don’t see it.

Cruz was solid, as expected. The only one who did better than I was expecting was Huckabee, who made great points while looking and sounding confident. He might get a boost.

I’m looking forward to seeing what happens in the polls over the next few days.


69 posted on 08/09/2015 3:39:49 AM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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Spot on. “The GOP thinks the issue is Trump. Much of the base thinks the issue is the GOP.”


70 posted on 08/09/2015 3:41:03 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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The wheels are just beginning to turn - I predict Trump will still be around next March and Cruz will be a bit more prominent and be starting the end-game strategies.


73 posted on 08/09/2015 4:27:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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If... you seriously believe in the central proposition of Trump's candidacy - that the endless flood of mass unskilled immigration is putting the very nation at stake - why would you put party over country? Why commit to supporting, say, Jeb Bush who thinks illegal immigration is an "act of love"? Many electors agree with Trump - that America is dying before their eyes. If that's the case, why should fealty to a party that bears a large measure of responsibility for that decay take precedence over love of country?

The reality is that the GOP establishment, after their appalling behavior in the Hastert years, were given a second chance by the base in 2010, and a third chance in 2014. Now they're demanding a fourth chance - and people go, well, ... but a Republican president will at least get to appoint rock-ribbed Supreme Court justices, like, er, John Roberts, who constitutionalized Obamacare, and, um, Anthony Kennedy, who gave us federally mandated gay marriage. Boehner, McConnell, Kennedy, Roberts... Not much to show for a party that's been supposedly dominant for 35 years, is it?

The GOP thinks the issue is Trump; much of the base thinks the issue is the GOP.

74 posted on 08/09/2015 4:51:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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Why do some blame the GOPe, the party “elders,” etc., for the nomination of Romney or McCain? They got the most votes, didn’t they?

Blame the stupid voters who vote for the name they’ve heard most often.

For the stupidity, blame the parents who are satisfied with the public indoctrination camps, and the media that constantly push the herd to the left.

Mr. Trump has the juice to build his own media empire, plus the appeal (even to the stupid). Why doesn’t he? A Trump alternative to MSNBC and the other alphabets would pay for itself in no time, and would advance the beliefs he says he holds now. Especially the one about making America great again.


81 posted on 08/09/2015 6:03:51 AM PDT by Buttons12
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Later


82 posted on 08/09/2015 6:12:34 AM PDT by gaijin
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