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Sanders would clobber Trump in a debate
UK Progressive ^ | August 5, 2015 | Brent Budowsky, former Democratic Aide

Posted on 08/05/2015 3:16:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In my past piece for The Hill’s contributor site, I quoted from a recent poll showing that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would clobber reality television show star and real estate mogul Donald Trump by more than 20 points. Polls may vary, but there is little question that Sanders would win in a landslide in any general election matchup against Trump and, I predict, in any head-to-head debate with Trump, Sanders would win a blockbuster victory.

What is involved is far more than polling numbers. Sanders is a voice of inspiration for most Democrats, whether they support him or not. Trump is an embarrassment to virtually all Republicans except the small plurality of GOP voters who make Trump a slight front-runner in a race with 15 GOP contenders (or is it 16 or 17 today)? Sanders is running slightly ahead or slightly behind all of the GOP candidates — including former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.) — while Trump would lose in a landslide against any Democratic opponent in all polling that has been taken so far.

The seeds exist for a major progressive wave and transformation for America in 2016. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is leading that wave in the Senate and Sanders is leading that wave in the presidential campaign, with Hillary Clinton still trying to decide if she should ultimately lead the wave, follow the wave or try to maneuver around the wave.

Trump, by contrast, is so disliked by so many Republicans and so many general election voters that he could not be nominated or elected. Sanders is destined to be a pacesetter; Trump is destined to become a footnote. Sanders could become a leading figure in history if more Democrats follow his path of principled progressivism, regardless of who is nominated. Trump, by contrast, will ultimately return to real estate deals and reality television freak shows and will ultimately go down in history alongside 2012 presidential contender Herman Cain.

Sanders is a leader; Trump is a showman, which is why Sanders’s crowds are larger than Trump’s, Sanders’s polls are stronger than Trump’s, and Sanders will leave large footprints while Trump will leave a legacy as politically profound as “The Apprentice.”

I propose it is time for a Sanders-Trump debate, and if it happens, Sanders the contender will obliterate Trump the pretender in the battle of ideas that progressives are destined to win.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: democrats; desperate; establishment; panic; polls; sanders; stoptrump; trump
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Brent Budowsky served as Legislative Assistant to U.S. Senator Lloyd Bentsen, responsible for commerce and intelligence matters, including one of the core drafters of the CIA Identities Law. Served as Legislative Director to Congressman Bill Alexander, then Chief Deputy Whip, House of Representatives. Currently a member of the International Advisory Council of the Intelligence Summit. Left government in 1990 for marketing and public affairs business including major corporate entertainment and talent management.
1 posted on 08/05/2015 3:16:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump doesn’t “debate”.

I don’t think Trump knows his positions on an issue beyond the sound bite


2 posted on 08/05/2015 3:17:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie will trounce Trump I’m sure, if your sense of reality is completely inverted, like that of most liberals.


3 posted on 08/05/2015 3:18:07 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Smoke, smoke, smoke, that wacky weed....”

(apologies to Tex Ritter)


4 posted on 08/05/2015 3:18:09 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That guy is proof that you shouldn’t do drugs.


5 posted on 08/05/2015 3:21:09 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only question that I would like to hear Bernie Sanders answer is the following:

“Senator, could you explain how reducing the variety of deodorants available to the public will eliminate hunger in the USA?”

What are the odds we’ll hear that question (0%)


6 posted on 08/05/2015 3:21:09 PM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One word Bernie.

Venezuela.


7 posted on 08/05/2015 3:22:06 PM PDT by struggle
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To: elcid1970

It was Tex Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWXbVsMkz1U


8 posted on 08/05/2015 3:22:43 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie Sanders might win on technical points but Trump will win on personality and on the issues. Period.


9 posted on 08/05/2015 3:22:45 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump, by contrast, is so disliked by so many Republicans

WMUR NH Primary.

Favorable/Unfavorable Trump +11, Jeb +8, Christie Even, Huckabee +1, Paul +12, Perry +4, Rubio +21, Cruz +24, Walker +38, Graham -23.

https://cola.unh.edu/sites/cola.unh.edu/files/research_publications/gsp2015_summer_gopprim080315.pdf

Page 3. Did he mean to say Lindsey Graham?
10 posted on 08/05/2015 3:24:49 PM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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To: GeronL
I don’t think Trump knows his positions on an issue beyond the sound bite

None of them do...They have ideas and then they recruit political advisors and policy experts to get to where they want to go...Trump will find the right people to successfully carry out his plans...

11 posted on 08/05/2015 3:25:27 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bernie is DC as usual, Trump is not, and folks are just fed up with usual. America needs a kick ass president, Bernie is no kick ass. With Trump you at least stand a chance of ending some of the corruption. I feel that if I watch the debate, its not going to move me with the usual political blah, blah, blah geared to make you feel good. The only thing I would feel good about is seeing some of the congress crew leave in orange suits.


12 posted on 08/05/2015 3:26:41 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 The RNC better come up with a Winner this time. Run some one like Cruz and Go for Broke!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Written by Brent Buttowsky, former Emocratic aide of U.K. Progressive. You already know which team he plays for and which position - Catcher obviously. No need to waste my time reading the leftist progressive BS.


13 posted on 08/05/2015 3:26:57 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First, Sanders probably would “clobber” Trump ... on debater’s points. If your goal is to have debate judges give you the highest score, that’s just dandy. Depending on the format, however, Trump may well be the winner among undecided viewers who are considering how to cast the ballot.

The goal is to win the election, NOT debater’s points.


14 posted on 08/05/2015 3:27:13 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As much as I dislike Trump, there’s no contest between voting for him or Sanders. Implementing Sanders’s programs means we’ll be Venezuela Norte in about 5-10 years.


15 posted on 08/05/2015 3:27:18 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm figuring Brent is gay....

Not that there's anything wrong with that..............

16 posted on 08/05/2015 3:28:14 PM PDT by Osage Orange (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Candy gram for Budowsky!


17 posted on 08/05/2015 3:28:19 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In my past piece for The Hill’s contributor site, I quoted from a recent poll showing that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would clobber reality television show star and real estate mogul Donald Trump by more than 20 points. Polls may vary, but there is little question that Sanders would win in a landslide in any general election matchup against Trump and, I predict, in any head-to-head debate with Trump, Sanders would win a blockbuster victory.

Which Republican then can pull the communist votes away from Sanders???

18 posted on 08/05/2015 3:28:53 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: MeganC

plus Trump may not be a political insider but knows how to put together teams(cabinet) to solve problems..Not Make or Create Them


19 posted on 08/05/2015 3:29:02 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: elcid1970

My mistake, there are two versions.


20 posted on 08/05/2015 3:29:49 PM PDT by Fungi
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