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Jeb Bush on gay marriage: Couples making lifetime commitments to each other deserve respect
Hot Air ^ | January 6, 2015 | Allahpundit

Posted on 01/06/2015 1:09:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Not so much respect that the state should recognize their commitment as a legal marriage, he stresses, but respect nonetheless.

“We live in a democracy, and regardless of our disagreements, we have to respect the rule of law,” Mr. Bush said in a statement. “I hope that we can show respect for the good people on all sides of the gay and lesbian marriage issue – including couples making lifetime commitments to each other who are seeking greater legal protections and those of us who believe marriage is a sacrament and want to safeguard religious liberty.”…

Gay rights leaders said they found Mr. Bush’s statement on Monday encouraging. Fred Sainz, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, a group that has pushed for same-sex marriage, said that “most Republican politicians have been adamant in their opposition and provide no room for evolution.”

Mr. Bush “at least is expressing his respect for those who support marriage equality,” Mr. Sainz said. “That’s a big change for Republicans.”

Something of a change for Jeb too. BuzzFeed dinged him yesterday by digging up an op-ed from his first run for governor in ’94 in which he framed gay rights as a question of whether “sodomy [should] be elevated to the same constitutional status as race and religion.” This is the sort of line-walking he’ll have to do now, though, as a man whose base is in the middle but who’ll need social conservatives to show up for him if he’s the nominee. It’s the flip side of the position traditionally taken by some Democrats on abortion, that they’re personally pro-life but pro-choice as a matter of law (“safe, legal, and rare”). The party’s base has a litmus test on a hot-button issue that could cause the candidate headaches with the broader electorate. Solution: Pass the litmus test by siding with your own side on policy while paying carefully crafted lip service to the other side. I’m curious now to see if any of Bush’s more socially conservative competition takes the bait and knocks him for saying gay relationships deserve “respect,” if not legal sanction. That’d be a fun subplot at the debates: Does Mike Huckabee, who’s friendly enough to gay people to have earned a valentine from liberal Sally Kohn in the Daily Beast, want to make an issue of whether committed relationships between two men or two women deserve “respect”? Swing voters can tolerate a candidate who opposes legalizing gay marriage; I don’t know how they’ll feel about someone whom they regard as anti-”respect,” a real problem potentially someone like Huck whose retail power depends heavily on his perceived affability. And if Huck does attack him on this, so much the better for Jeb. It’ll give him a chance to please establishmentarians and independents by defending gays in a visible way, his anti-SSM position notwithstanding.

All of this is premised, though, on the idea that righties will give Bush a pass on his pronouncements on this subject so long as he continues to stick with them on the actual policy. Will they, though? Ted Cruz could get away with the same rhetoric because conservatives have no doubt where he stands ideologically. They do doubt where Jeb stands, such that I wonder if they won’t treat the “respect” verbiage as a sign that he might “evolve” as president a la Obama towards supporting legalized gay marriage himself. That problem isn’t limited to this issue either. Here’s a line from the mission statement from Jeb’s new Super PAC, “Right to Rise.” Quote: “We believe the income gap is real, but that only conservative principles can solve it by removing the barriers to upward mobility.” Pretty unexceptional; Marco Rubio and Mike Lee talk about using conservative policies to create new opportunities for the lower and middle classes regularly. Coming from Jeb, though, that line about the “income gap” sounds a bit … Warren-ish, no? “While the last eight years have been pretty good ones for top earners,” the statement goes on to say, “they’ve been a lost decade for the rest of America.” Quite Warren-ish indeed! And yet, you’ll hear variations on that from nearly every Republican candidate this year, especially ones like Scott Walker and Bobby Jindal who’ll be aiming at blue-collar voters and running on economic revival. Because Jeb bears the “RINO” burden, though, it feels more suspicious, an inkling that his presidency would be more left-wing than anyone suspects. Same goes for his statement on gay marriage. How does he solve that problem with conservative voters? Or does he even need to?


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KEYWORDS: 2016; bush; cabal; crimeinc; eu; fixed; gop; homosexualagenda; mamasboy; oneparty; progressive; rino; soros
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To: PapaNew
But it's NONE of the federal government's business

Not according to federal courts. It is a federal issue because federal courts with the aid of liberals everywhere have made it so. Therefore a Federal Marriage Amendment is necessary.

21 posted on 01/06/2015 1:18:13 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s your Republican nominee.


22 posted on 01/06/2015 1:18:18 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stay out da Booshies.


23 posted on 01/06/2015 1:18:47 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jeb Bush is staking his claim for GOP establishment approval, and he'll very likely get it.

What the ever-compassionate and understanding Jeb Bush won't get is the votes of millions of traditional Republicans who see his comments as simply pandering to the left via his positions on gays and illegal immigrants.

For those folks, Jeb Bush is a non-starter. If this man is the best the Republican establishment has to offer, I'll pass.

24 posted on 01/06/2015 1:19:14 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We live in a democracy, and regardless of our disagreements, we have to respect the rule of law,

If we lived in a democracy, there would be very little by way of gay marriage. I'd say for the most part, the majority votes time after time to BAN it. Only to be overturned by the courts. If democracy is "majority rules", then this issue proves that our system is the farthest thing from it.

I absolutely hate how they all continue to claim we are a democracy.
25 posted on 01/06/2015 1:19:19 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Watching politicians try to triangulate every fringe group of malcontents and not normal middle class Americans is almost comical, ... almost.


26 posted on 01/06/2015 1:19:48 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Nervous Tick

No, it’s people that send liberal with R’s to DC that are the root cause. Because not one judge would be there gaying America without the assistance of the voter that contributed to his empowerment.

They elected the people that appointed these fascists. If they sent R’s that fought, there would be no judges legislating since they likely would never see confirmation. WHO CONFIRMS THEM??? WHO SENT THOSE PEOPLE TO DC???


27 posted on 01/06/2015 1:20:06 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (1000...and climbing.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Do a word search of the Constitution. You will find out there is no mention of “democracy”, at all. There is a reference to “republican.” I guess Bush the Lesser has no respect for the rule of law.


28 posted on 01/06/2015 1:20:20 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given the existence of no-fault divorce, the view that a civil marriage constitutes a lifetime commitment is dubious.

Of course, perhaps Jeb Bush realizes this, and therefore is not really saying anything at all with this remark, but only appearing to say something.


29 posted on 01/06/2015 1:21:04 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

NEVER, EVER had mine!


30 posted on 01/06/2015 1:21:34 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Why can’t I marry my sons? I’m not interested in having sexual relations, I just love them so.

Actually might be a reasonable way to avoid the inheritance tax. The last surviving spouse marries their children and their estate passes along without the Fed's stealing their portion.
I'm sure this hole will be sealed shut (can't deprive the Government of their stolen money), but it shows where this absurd destruction of the sanctity of marriage leads.

31 posted on 01/06/2015 1:22:03 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: mmichaels1970

You are correct. If we lived in a true democracy (sheep/wolves), all these new world order globalist elite power peddlers would be cooling their heels behind barbed wire.


32 posted on 01/06/2015 1:22:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb Bush says something stupid.

Just another day of ridiculous Bush pontificating.

He really should work for Howard Dean.

I mean, more openly.


33 posted on 01/06/2015 1:22:49 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So in other words, a sinful life deserves respect. Do I have that right?
34 posted on 01/06/2015 1:22:58 PM PST by Fungi (Fungi--the reason we have antibiotics, cheese, bread, and wine.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

>> I guess Bush the Lesser has no respect for the rule of law.

Well, he’s a Bush. They were born our betters. Like the Kennedys before them and the Clintoons after them, they make the rules for the little people to follow.


35 posted on 01/06/2015 1:23:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hurl!

I will NOT vote for the handpicked candidate. If I have to, I'll write in Ted Cruz.

And those of you who will say I've wasted my vote or have handed the presidency to the Democrats — save it. I will not be browbeaten or guilted into voting for another liberal.

36 posted on 01/06/2015 1:23:21 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course most gays who “marry” head straight back to the bath houses after the honeymoon is over.


37 posted on 01/06/2015 1:23:59 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jim Robinson

amen.

Marriage has not been a “lifetime” commitment for a long while


38 posted on 01/06/2015 1:25:05 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeb Bush/Larry Sinclair 2016


39 posted on 01/06/2015 1:25:59 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another demonstration that the man has no backbone and no morals.


40 posted on 01/06/2015 1:26:07 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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