Posted on 05/06/2014 7:10:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Gone is the sunny, compassionate candidate of 2008. In the run-up to 2016, the former Arkansas governor is downright angry. He’s learned his lesson from his last campaign, ex-aides say.
In 2007, Mike Huckabee stood impassively on a Republican presidential debate stage while Mitt Romney tried to embarrass him. A program that Huckabee had instituted in Arkansas gave undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children the right to in-state tuition at Arkansas’s public universities.
Huckabee sounded, Romney said, like a Massachusetts liberal. “Are we going to give taxpayer-funded benefits to kids that are here illegally and put them ahead of kids that are here legally?” he asked.
Huckabee explained that the kids who benefitted were brought to the U.S. as children, that they had spent all their young lives in Arkansas’s public schools, and that, in many cases, they had excelled. He alluded to his own story—going to work at 14 as a local radio host, working his way through Ouachita Baptist University in two and half years.
“Let me finish, Mitt,” he said when the former Massachusetts governor tried to interject. “In all due respect, we are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did. We’re a better country than that.”
It was one of the more remarkable moments of the 2008 campaign. Here was a presidential contender not pandering to an anti-immigrant crowd but shaming his party— and, for that matter, his nation—to be better. Rare is the candidate who cuts against the grain of party orthodoxy; rarer still is one who uses the campaign to educate and persuade the public....
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If you want to deport them then fine, deport them. That's what I want.
But if you want to (wink wink) let them stay here, and be cheap labor and deny them benefits that everyone else gets, and make them pay more to send their kids to college, then you're wrong. Basically a slave class. That's oppressing the stranger and will likely bring God's wrath upon us.
Some FR discussions end in a draw. Others end in a split decision, or even a TKO. IMHO, the above comment ends this discussion as a KO.
DannyTN, you put up a good fight here. I even had you ahead in the early scoring. But the KO goes to JRF.
Not giving them a better deal than US citizens for college is a punishment??
Of course not
The Israelis started out as guests in Egypt. They were invited there by Joseph who had risen to be second in the land of Egypt.
You need to be careful about ignoring scriptural texts that clearly reveals how God thinks we should treat one another.
How is it a better deal? They still have to meet the residency requirements, just like everyone else.
Your moral equivalence argument holds as much water as CNN saying that the death penalty is unChristian.
You are a flaming lib.
Sod off.
/johnny
/johnny
Then deport them already.
Don't (wink wink) let them stay here and they treat them like a second class.
Until that happens, I intend to treat them like invaders, and not offer benefits supposedly reserved to legal residents.
4 years of legal residency, and then in-state tuition. Clock starts when they get legal.
Don't reward law breaking. And that's what you advocate.
Only liberal scum would reward unlawful behavior and call it 'fair'.
/johnny
The unlawful behavior we should be punishing is the failure to enforce immigration law.
/johnny
The liberal mindset is open borders and amnesty.
I’m for neither. But I do recognize that our repeated failure to enforce the law has created a situation that is similar to Israel in Egypt. And God’s heart on that matter is pretty clear. We would do well to heed it.
These people invaded to take advantage of the benefits America offers LAWFUL residents.
You want to reward them with those benefits.
Try calling evil good to someone else, because I'm not buying it.
/johnny
/johnny
If we were deporting them I'd be okay with it.
But letting them stay here, and making the a second class citizenship that has to pay more for college education is wrong.
You are wrong. Morally and logically and ethically wrong. But you 'feel' compassion.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I call it an invasion because they KNOW they are doing something illegal to gain a benefit. That's how it's an invasion. What we do has nothing to do with the fact that they are invading.
/johnny
I don't dislike him... just don't like him a lot.
We’ll lets not reward them either with lower tuition etc
Illegal aliens paying less (subsidized) than Americans from other states would pay is wrong
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