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All 10 Republicans visiting Iowa 'are players' for 2016
The Des Moines Register | November 22, 2013 | Jennifer Jacobs

Posted on 11/22/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20131122/NEWS09/311220100/?odyssey=nav%7Chead


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; chrischristie; gop; iowa; lping; palin; randpaul; tedcruz
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To: 1010RD; octex
...and no more birthright citizenship. If your parents are illegal, you’re an illegal and you never can get citizenship.<

How very odd. You insist on being "realistic" in our expectations. Yet, the above expectation is even more unlikely than mass deportation.

41 posted on 11/23/2013 9:45:35 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

No it isn’t.


42 posted on 11/23/2013 11:27:14 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
No it isn’t.

Sorry, but the Democrats won't settle for anything short of a path to citizenship. There's absolutely no point in their creating 10-15-20 million dependents if they can't cast a ballot.

If you believe a "comprehensive" immigration solution is both achievable and desirable, citizenship comes with the package.

And that's a "problem", isn't it?

43 posted on 11/23/2013 3:25:29 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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the millions of illegals don’t need to cast ballots their offspring and their offspring’s kids will cast ballots as us citizens
we are insane to allow anchor babies as US citizens.


44 posted on 11/23/2013 3:29:54 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: okie01

Ah, you misunderstand me. The current proposal by Luis Guttierez applies to only 8 million illegals and includes fines, taxes and a formal path to citizenship. As part of that deal you end birthright citizenship going forward. You can’t fix it as is, but you can alter the future.


45 posted on 11/23/2013 4:03:47 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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The current proposal by Luis Guttierez applies to only 8 million illegals and includes fines, taxes and a formal path to citizenship. As part of that deal you end birthright citizenship going forward.

1. Gutierrez has split with the Dem leadership over the issue. His influence is likely nil.

2. Liberal judges will reject any statute that ends birthright citizenship, claiming it unconstitutional. A constitutional amendment would probably be required to end the practice.

Gutierrez' plan is going nowhere.

For the Democrats, there is only one satisfactory outcome to the immigration issue: Votes. Any outcome short of that leaves them with a wedge issue they can hammer the GOP with -- and, to them, that's the 2nd best outcome.

Net:net, there's no point in the Republicans passing any immigration bills until such time as they control the House, the Senate and the Presidency -- so that the process can start with heightened border security.

Even if you could get a Gutierrez bill in the meantime, there is no assurance that this administration would do anything about border security. You simply can't trust them to do what they are required by law to do.

46 posted on 11/23/2013 4:39:09 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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You simply can't trust them to do what they are required by law to do.

You win.

47 posted on 11/24/2013 7:44:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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