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A Third Tea Party: Possible, Realistic, and Easier Than You Think
Tea Party Nation ^ | September 15, 2013 | Daniel R. Quintiliani

Posted on 09/15/2013 4:50:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

During the pre-Palin days of the Tea Party Movement, the idea of a conservative third party was often discussed. Since the Tampa Purge of 2012, many have revisited this idea, most recently Judson Phillips of Tea Party Nation.

A third party dedicated only to freedom and limited government has been attempted several times, and we do have the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party, though like the Green Party, they have been restricted to local politics, and often lack ballot access.

This period of American history is marked by a large, oppressive, and violent federal government. We have many factions within the Republican Party that are fighting each other to gain more control over the others.

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The Republican Primary of 2012, possibly the most bizarre primary election in the history of the United States, featured deliberately ignored districts, intimidation and blackmail of delegates, physical assault against delegates, "secret caucuses", fraudulently detoured transportation, obvious plants in presidential campaigns, strangely dismissed court cases, and much more horrible things we will probably never know. In addition, our elected delegates in future primaries and caucuses can now be replaced, at any time, by the Republican National Committee.

As a result, many are again questioning whether we are better off in a third party than fighting at all. Neocons want nothing to do with anyone who won't obey them to the grave, and this includes all free-market libertarians, religious conservatives, and all similar groups that find common ground in the Tea Party Movement.

Starting a Third Tea Party is a very bad idea, and will cause freedom to dissipate and die into a medieval America built on endless wars, dumbed-down schools, illegal immigration, and socialist national health care.

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However, it does not have to be a bad idea. Many state and county divisions of the Republican Party are increasingly frustrated in their fight against the neocons. By having their own "secret meetings", it would be very easy for entire state parties to "secede" from the national Republican Party and form a Third Tea Party.

With entire states and counties gone, the Republican Party loses its presence. Neocons then have to spend the money not on weapons and wars, but on rebuilding the Republican Party - money, manpower, lobbying, propaganda, and more. For their presence has just vanished from a state with only two parties on the ballot: the Democratic Party and the Third Tea Party. If the Republican Party is not successfully re-created in that state, there will be no possible Republican vote from that state in any national election.

Unlike, say, a state Libertarian Party struggling to stay on the ballot, the Third Tea Party will already be on the ballot, and have most or all of the funding, politicians, lobbyists, votes, and resources the state Republican Party used to have.

A Third Tea Party would have no room for the neocons who attempted to destroy it. The only financially viable option for the neocons would be to bail and join the party of Big Government, that is, the Democratic Party. From then on, there would be a new two party system - the Tea Party, which would support freedom, and the Democratic Party, which does not.

It is dangerous for the Tea Party to attempt to start a new party. It would be divisive, devastating, and throw America to the wolves. It is possible, however, for liberty-minded states and their Republican Parties to "secede" from the national party. Either way, all those involved in politics must remember that America is not built on the Republican or Democratic Parties, but on the Constitution.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: elites; gop; lping; palin; republicans; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; thirdparty
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To: JRandomFreeper

Agreed! Now just where is that Party to go to?


21 posted on 09/15/2013 5:36:43 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: ansel12

Some Paulestinians claim that Ron Paul and his followers created the Tea Party long before Gov. Palin was nominated for the vice presidency.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 5:45:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Conspiracy Theorist ping. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet, but no thanks.


23 posted on 09/15/2013 5:46:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, seems that you and yours don’t want to face reality...heh. Turn on your TV...


24 posted on 09/15/2013 5:50:38 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If amnesty passes it will be moot.


25 posted on 09/15/2013 5:51:21 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eagles6

That’s the spirit!


26 posted on 09/15/2013 5:51:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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Why Retirees And Veterans Should Be The Whistleblowers
Posted on July 11, 2013 by Daniel R. Quintiliani
http://libertycolumns.com/2013/07/11/why-retirees-and-veterans-should-be-the-whistleblowers/

...the US government deliberately baited Saddam Hussein into attacking Kuwait in order to begin the First Gulf War of 1990

Discrimination vs. Terrorism: Two Different Enemies
Posted on February 1, 2013 by Daniel R. Quintiliani
http://libertycolumns.com/2013/02/01/discrimination-vs-terrorism-two-different-enemies/

...avoiding discrimination of open homosexuals and women [in the US military] would not be an issue. For Muslim terrorists, however, our opposition to discrimination angers their intent to force Sharia Law on the world, and will motivate them to further attack America, Israel, and our other allies.

In Memoriam: Aaron Swartz (1986-2013), A True Hero
Posted on January 13, 2013 by Daniel R. Quintiliani
http://libertycolumns.com/2013/01/13/in-memoriam-aaron-swartz-1986-2013-a-true-hero/

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27 posted on 09/15/2013 5:55:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Deagle

Wow, seems that you and yours live in fantasyland where the TV holds the truth.


28 posted on 09/15/2013 5:57:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Numerous ones have tried to claim credit and say they are leaders of the Tea Party.

The actual current 'tea party' began when CNBC's Rick Santelli gave a standing rant about Washington spending (remember the bailouts?). Basically, he was calling for a 'Chicago tea party.'

That rant began to smolder. Even Neal Cavuto interviewed some of the early 'pushers' of the idea. Cavuto concluded that it would run out of steam within a few days. It didn't. And in 2010 it showed some electoral muscle. That muscle wasn't so obvious in 2012. Many hope it will be back in 2014.
29 posted on 09/15/2013 5:58:57 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: TomGuy

If I had a $20 bill for every instance of seeing the term “tea baggers” or “tea bagging” in the comment section of article, I’d buy a house and a new car.


30 posted on 09/15/2013 6:00:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, when I’ve looked at that it seemed like the usual Ron Paul stuff, they make claims like the Soviets used to.


31 posted on 09/15/2013 6:01:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet. Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: SunkenCiv

Heh, maybe you should get out more. I’d guess that you think that the Republicans are winning arguments these days? As a Tea Party member, I think that you are maybe a bit naive or maybe just not informed (don’t watch enough TV lately).

Maybe you ought to turn on the TV and learn what is going on in the world according to the liberal media.


32 posted on 09/15/2013 6:08:30 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Walkingfeather
I would say from the outset. We will start this party, but we plan to lose the first 3 election cycles, straight out.

And since the (R) vote would be split, the Dems would win those 3 election cycles.
Republicans would be shut out of the Presidency, never regain power in the Senate, and probably lose the House in that time.
The majority, perhaps all of the Supreme Court will have retired by then, with a 'Rat President nominating their successors and a 'Rat Senate confirming them.
When you look at how far we've slid into Tyranny in the last five years, then give them another 7 or 8 to consolidate their power, do you think anyone but a 'Rat would ever win an election?

33 posted on 09/15/2013 6:10:25 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree, it may take a cycle or two to get firm footing but to continue on with over 50% of the republicans not being distinguishable from the rats, I see no other viable alternative. I switched to independent when that pathetic lush boehner was re-elected as weeper of the house. Anyone notice how much better boehner is than pelosi?


34 posted on 09/15/2013 6:10:34 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I)
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To: ZOOKER

And you would think that it might be better if either party wins in the next 12 years? Please, we are at an impasse maybe but it is not because of another party’s challenge, it is because we have lost our way - both parties!

It might take some time to make drastic changes but you have to start at the beginning.


35 posted on 09/15/2013 6:20:40 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: RS_Rider

“Anyone notice how much better boehner is than pelosi?”

Ah yes, look at all the good legislation that Boehner has passed since he has been Speaker!


36 posted on 09/15/2013 6:24:00 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: Deagle

“Ah yes, look at all the good legislation that Boehner has passed since he has been Speaker!”

You forgot the /s


37 posted on 09/15/2013 6:38:18 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I)
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To: RS_Rider

Assumed that it was a given...


38 posted on 09/15/2013 6:49:50 PM PDT by Deagle (uently...)
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To: ZOOKER

I’m about convinced that secession is the only choice. The election system is just too corrupt.


39 posted on 09/15/2013 6:52:15 PM PDT by Himyar
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To: Himyar

Agreed.


40 posted on 09/15/2013 7:02:19 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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