Posted on 02/24/2013 9:28:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
1. The Electorate
The Republicans may as well stop their soul-searching and look at the reality of the Democrat electorate. In addition to those Republican voters who stayed home on Election Day, the hard-core (so-called) progressives, the inadequate Republican ground game, and those who pay little or no federal tax and are happy to elect those who promise to take larger sums from those who DO pay, there's a more profound and possibly intractable problem. From my countless discussions with Democrats/liberals, it seems clear that many, many voters - we will never be sure of their numbers - neither hear, nor are interested in hearing, the stance of conservatives or Republicans. I'm often incredulous at the self-satisfied political ignorance and gullibility of successful, otherwise high-functioning and intellectually curious Democrats. The range and depth of their ignorance regarding easily ascertainable facts is astounding ("No, President Obama has NOT increased the deficit: that's a lie! For your information, President Obama has spent less than any President in history!"); and many, in my experience, cite the New York Times as their irrefutable source of information, with phrases like: "The Times didn't mention it so it can't be true or relevant...."
For these people, it really doesn't matter what conservatives or Republicans think or say: they won't hear it! Republican positions are totally lost - unheard and meaningless - to a growing number of the electorate, including huge swaths of highly-educated and effective leaders in society. It would be understating the issue to note that the Republican/conservative "brand" has been sullied - but it begins to convey the nature of the problem: it's more accurate to say that the Republican/conservative brand has been effectively nullified for many people. For a growing number of voters, it doesn't matter what Republicans say...
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Like I said, I hope you are enjoying the job Obama is doing on you. Because I am not.
You remind me of my playmates from 3rd grade who used to take their toys home because they did not win. It is exactly the same mentality. I did not get my win so I am going home and abstain from the game.
Now I am stuck with Obamacare. I am stuck with military cuts. And my kids will be stuck with another $6 Trillion of national debt. And I will be stuck with Obama appointing judges who will make gay marriage legal, abortion on demand and all other liberal nonsense for next 30 years.
Finally, in case you did not notice, the MILLIONS of primary voters made the choice. Not the 365 GOPe. That is such a straw man as to be pathetic.
Really, I thought tax rates were a matter of tax-law, and therefore their alteration properly belongs to congress: how then could Romney alter thir tax-rate?
There would be no push to cut military.
Irrelevant -- most of the military needs to be cut, though not for the popular reasons put forth but because: the constitution does not authorize an Air Force, and the regular Army would horrify the founding fathers (why else did they Constitutionally limit the appropriation of funds for the army to 2-years?).
Obamacare would be history.
The President cannot overturn/repeal some law. Moreover, the "exemption voucher" idea that was floated by his supporters, if not him exactly, would provide a way for the President to extort the several States -- "Do what I want or I'll revoke your exemption!" -- thereby further weakening state sovereignty.
If you can’t see the difference on just those 3 issues between Obama & Romney, I am afraid you are beyond hopeless.
Two out of the three points were simply not within the realm of the President's authority. -- So, I reiterate: how would a Romney presidency be different?
Not a law firm, not a '70s band with synthesizers.
Just three goobers.
Bush gets 40% of Hispanics in his first term. Bush loses a bloody “amnesty” fight. Obama gets 70% first term and even more second with the republicans seeing who can sound toughest on immigration and Arizona’s law which gets mostly struck down. When you have a contstituency getting maligned over and over of course they are voting for the other guy. I am not an amnesty proponent but the message has been sent. Is this a problem with Hispanics? Is this a problem with the message? I would also note Asians are also voting for Dems at the same clip. Why? Again I would argue this falls in line with messaging on immigration. Jewish Americans voted 67% Dems. The messaging here moved the needle 2 points over 08 towards republicans. Still a pathetic number.
Lyndon Johnson said of civil rights the south was lost for at least a generation and he was right. Is immigration and the messaging the republicans civil rights moment? AA due to civil rights were lost to the republicans. No real further outreach has happened. Instead we get a lot of race baiting in our politics both ways and 15% of the electorate goes 95% democratic and it really has not changed ever. Should the messaging continue with Hispanics could that happen here? Is it Hispanics fault or the republicans? I guess we could argue the point but in the end does it matter? Losing another 12% of the electret and rising quickly is game over.
In buisness getting an increasing share of diminishing market equals soon to be bankrupt. Food for thought.
Ted Kennedy (Suffer in Hell you degenerate MF) not only managed to murder Mary Jo Kopechne but is responsible for the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which ensured that white non comsymps would be the minority in terms of future immigration to the USA.
Since nobody seems to have a clue in the GOP that this is a problem and much less intends to do anything about it, the war is lost and the collapse is inevitable.
The Washingtonians from both parties intend to steal everything not nailed down from those outside DC and then bug out under military protection when the collapse comes and the riots start.
An electorate that elected Clinton and Obama twice and gave algore the popular vote is no different than the Venezuelans and Cubans electing Chavez and Castro; stupid and dangerous.
Its time to think about ways to accelerate the collapse because only then can the Republic be reset and the Franchise limited as the Founders intended.
Honest Ape mortally wounded the Republic, the last 150 years has been merely death rattle.
Isn't most of the "fertility" in the non-white Democrat leaning groups?
No, the problem is that non-whites are voting 70+ percent for Obama, while white people, across the board, only 55 percent oppose Obama.
If white boomers rejected Obama to the same degree that non-white boomers accept him, he never would have been elected.
Most assuredly points to racism in the non-white voters.
Say it ain’t so.
Yawn, you either did not read or understand or consider my post.
Show me where that word is in the Constitution.
Look out, choppie, here comes Captain Obvious to inform you and the rest of us, who have never heard it before, that we are not a democracy, but SHOCK! a Republic, as if any other country in the world today (which is what the all-knowing Captain Obvious doesn’t know!) was what he and few others (mis)understand as “democracy”.
There is something called presidential veto.
You are beyond hopeless. I do not know why I waste my time
trying to educate you. First of all I have serious doubt Romney would have pushed for the tax brackets jacked up.
If the congress passed the bill anyways, he could veto it.
There is something known as Executive Order. Romney talked incessantly about issuing exemptions to all 50 states from Obamacare. That would starve the beast in its tracks.
Travel the middle-east like I have ( I was born and raised in nearby country) and you will educate yourself why military must be kept so strong, no one would dare start a war against us. The jihadists can only be stopped if the regime in the country where they are allowed to operate and train is in morbid fear of US military and intentions of the commander in chief.
Getting back to the main point, I was a fierce supporter of Herman Cain during the primaries because he had the best chance to defeat the community organizer from Chicago. When he dropped out, I was for Perry and when he fizzled, I was for Newt. When Romney got the nomination locked up, I did not abstain in November.
Which is irrelevant to things already passed into law.
First of all I have serious doubt Romney would have pushed for the tax brackets jacked up.
If the congress passed the bill anyways, he could veto it.
Could and would are two different things; Romney's a progressive, so I don't think that he'd have very much of a difference on tax issues than Obama. (It'd be like arguing over whether 55.1% or 55.2% is good as a tax rate.)
There is something known as Executive Order. Romney talked incessantly about issuing exemptions to all 50 states from Obamacare. That would starve the beast in its tracks.
That's the "exemption voucher" I mentioned. Again it's not a good idea to hand that sort of power to the President, any president.
Travel the middle-east like I have (I was born and raised in nearby country) and you will educate yourself why military must be kept so strong, no one would dare start a war against us. The jihadists can only be stopped if the regime in the country where they are allowed to operate and train is in morbid fear of US military and intentions of the commander in chief.
I was deployed to Iraq; I still believe that it would, ultimately, be better if we did not have a regular Army. (Think of it this way I want states nervous enough to push militia enrollment and training, not merely allow it, and I want there to be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
Getting back to the main point, I was a fierce supporter of Herman Cain during the primaries because he had the best chance to defeat the community organizer from Chicago. When he dropped out, I was for Perry and when he fizzled, I was for Newt. When Romney got the nomination locked up, I did not abstain in November.
I didn't abstain either, I voted for the man I thought best-suited to the job: Gary Johnson.
He did an excellent job as governor in my state, enough that he got re-elected as a Republican while the state was solidly democrat, and left office with a surplus. Here's a video.
Enjoy the rim job Obama is doing on you for 4 more years.
My mistake. I should have said republic. The post is still valid. I am sure most understood the context. I apologize for my mistake.
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