Posted on 02/14/2013 5:54:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Inside the cozy enclaves of GOP bonhomie—hunkered at the tables of see-and-be-seen Washington restaurants—Republican leaders are sourly predicting a party-busting independent presidential bid by a tea-party challenger, like Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., in 2016.
To them, the GOP apocalypse looms larger than most realize. Dueling State of the Union rebuttals and Karl Rove’s assault on right-wing candidates are mere symptoms of an existential crisis that is giving the sturdiest Republicans heartburn.
And yet, the heart of the matter extends beyond the GOP. My conversations this week with two Republican officials, along with a Democratic strategist's timely memo, reflect a growing school of thought in Washington that social change and a disillusioned electorate threaten the entire two-party system.
Seem like a lot to swallow? Allow me to describe my last few days at work.
Between bites of an $18.95 SteakBurger at the Palm, one of Washington’s premier expense-account restaurants, Republican consultant Scott Reed summed up the state of politics and his beloved GOP. “The party,” he told me, “is irrelevant.”
He cited the familiar litany of problems: demographic change, poor candidates, ideological rigidity, deplorable approval ratings, and a rift between social and economic conservatives.
“It’s leading to some type of crash and reassessment and change,” said Reed, who ran Bob Dole’s 1996 presidential campaign and remains an influential lobbyist and operative. “It can’t continue on this path.”(continued)
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And that rift or aka the ideological divide is getting bigger by the day with each new attack on the socials of the party otherwise known as the base by the Blue Blood RINO's like Karl Rove and company.
hey! GOP! YOU foisted Romney, and the rest of the crowd of candidates on US!
It is YOUR fault! Not mine!
Talk to the uh, Hand, yes, hand!
Why are you waiting for others to do the heavy lifting? Join your local Republican party and start changing things and convince other conservatives you know to do the same.
The GOPe rather liberals stay in power than conservatives obtain it. Bottom line is that if conservatives want the GOP to support our candidates, we are going to have to take the reins of power away from the GOPe and do it ourselves.
Romney’s nomination was the fault of conservatives and the GOPe. The GOPe did not close the open primaries allowing moderates and liberals to vote for Romney in a year when the Democrat candidate ran unopposed. Conservatives did not take over the Republican party from the GOPe and change things to give a conservative candidate a better chance. Also, conservatives did not rally behind one candidate and split the vote. Currently, we have little control over the actions of the GOPe, but we are responsible for our own actions. We need to change or all is lost. The time to become pro active is now. We have a year to the 2014 primaries so I suggest we get busy.
I did the same, but wrote a big “Resign Reince!” and a “I’m a conservative not a Republican” written on the stub.
Exactly - there are already 3 or for factions with their own litmus tests and no candidate can make all of them 9or even one of them) happy. They will all "stand on principle" as they destroy each others' candidates and we will continue to get "unthinkable" results like Zero for a second term. Our side of the aisle is incapable of holding to a game plan and becoming a cohesive unit with a goal in mind.
Time for the Liberty Party to be born out of the Tea Party Movement. Let the Rovian Republicans die on the vine. Lets set a date for the New Party to form. If the GOP couldn’t defeat Obama with his track record—they never will defeat another Democrat/Liberal.
If you don’t want a new party-—lets bolt the GOP and join an existing 3rd Party and take it over! Any suggestions? Even if we threaten to do this—or Sarah Palin/Donald Trump make some noise on this, the GOP might cave in and let the Tea Party have some say in the direction of the Party! Its worth a try-—because what the Republicans are doing now just aint cutting it!
“The bottom line is the demographics. There are a lot of good, well-documented articles on the topic ona website which is prohibited here at Free Republic, it’s called VDARE.COM, I invite readers to check it out for themselves.”
I second that. One of the great mistakes here at FR has been to prohibit VDARE.COM. The treachery of GOP elites has been spelled out there better than any other site on the web.
Why is VDARE prohibited?
This begs the question: if conservatives can’t take over the Republican party from the GOPe, what good would moving to a third party do? As tarnished as the Republican brand is, it is seen as the only viable alternative to the Democrats, and most conservatives still turn out to vote for GOP candidates. That’s not something we should give up without a fight. Plus, a third party would still remain vulnerable to RINO infiltration. We need to stand together, organize, and take over the GOP from the corrupt elite who occupy it. We out number them, but we lack the will to fight.
“Why is VDARE prohibited?”
I have no direct knowledge but my understanding is that John Robinson was personally offended by something that one of VDARE’s founders wrote about him.
If that’s the case I wish JR and VDARE would bury the hatchet so that we could link to its articles.
No.
Conservatives believe in the rule of law.
Progressives believe any end justifies the means.
Your argument is in not based on easily observable facts.
Joe Scarborough is an observable fact. As a Representative he had me very convinced as to his conservative credentials.The only time Senator Lindsey speaks truly conservatively is for about 6 months every 6 years. Sorrowfully there are many more examples.
I suggest you reread what I wrote.
Neither Scarborough nor Lindsey are conservatives.
They will never win again without the conservative vote.
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