Posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
It’s been less than 24 hours since the polls closed and already the first shots in an emerging civil war within the conservative movement are being fired. Right-leaning pundits have been taking turns beating up on Mitt Romney and blaming him for the loss last night. Donald Trump just tweeted, “Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.” And GOP leaders are already taking to the barricades on either side of the divide, which basically comes down to this question: Were Romney and the GOP too conservative or not conservative enough?
Steve Schmidt, a top Republican strategist who ran John McCain’s 2008 campaign, invoked the term on MSNBC this morning. “When I talk about a civil war in the Republican Party, what I mean is, it’s time for Republican elected leaders to stand up and to repudiate this nonsense [of the extreme right wing], and to repudiate it directly,” he said.
But on the other side of the fight, Herman Cain, the former presidential candidate who still has a robust following via his popular talk radio program and speaking tours, today suggested the most clear step to open civil war: secession. Appearing on Bryan Fischer’s radio program this afternoon, Cain called for a large faction of Republican Party leaders to desert the party and form a third, more conservative party.
“I never thought that I would say this, and this is the first time publicly that I’ve said it: We need a third party to save this country. Not Ron Paul and the Ron Paulites. No. We need a legitimate third party to challenge the current system that we have, because I don’t believe that the Republican Party … has the ability to rebrand itself,” Cain said.
Fischer, a social conservative leader, noted that he predicted this summer that if Mitt Romney loses, evangelical conservatives would start a third party. “If Barack Obama wins this election the Republican Party as we know it is finished, it is dead, it is toast,” Fischer said in September at the Values Voter Summit in Washington.
Rush Limabugh, two months ago, echoed the sentiment. ”If Obama wins, let me tell you what it’s the end of: the Republican Party. There’s gonna be a third party that’s gonna be oriented toward conservatism,” he said.
“It is more viable today than it has ever been,” Cain told Fischer today of a third party.
After the GOP’s crushing 2008 loss, there was lots of talk about a new third party. When the Tea Party emerged, this talk almost became a reality. Instead, the conservative activists opted for a hostile takeover of the GOP. It’s still very unlikely that Cain or anyone else could start a viable third party, but his comments underscore the cleavage within the conservative movement in the wake of the defeat last night.
Well - just goes to tell ya, Herman isn’t very bright.
Agree. If bonehead dork Boehner doesn’t committ suicide in the next three weeks, I am no longer a Republican.
Get this started NOW, and ready for 2014 Congressional and State Elections.
Of course, the Establishment OWNS all the Media, and the facts won't get out.
We'd see NOTHING but the constant, 24/7 bullshit against it/smears like Palin, Cain, Santorum, etc. recieved in the Primaries.
We are done....
Agree. If bonehead dork Boehner doesn’t committ suicide in the next three weeks, I am no longer a Republican.
I agree with Herman!
Sign me up!
Now.
Its going to happen eventually.
The trick is to avoid thinking it will spring to power and replace the GOP. You’ve got to build small, pick off a seat here and there and caucus with conservative republicans. Over time you can start pulling the conservative republicans into the fold.
Rove and Schmidt should come out of the closet, and switch parties.
The Libertarian party got one percent for the presidential election — in real terms that is huge — they did so spending fractions of a cent compared to republican and democrat advertisement.
After Christmas Herman...
Lets get through Thankgiving and Christmas and then we’ll talk next year...
But I think that the GOP types just might listen to reason and be willing and eagar to try something else...
like good sense and Conservatism...
“It’s still very unlikely that Cain or anyone else could start a viable third party,”
Ever hear of Sarah Palin? Many of us would be pleased to have her head a ticket.
Adios.
Herman Cain felt some heat and left the kitchen.
A third party requires a Master Chef - Not a Dishwasher.
But I think there's strength in numbers - the GOP wouldn't be able to take conservatives for granted anymore and expect to keep the coalition intact. It would guarantee us a seat at the table selecting candidates, making policy, etc.
On the other hand, it may cause the GOP to finally just up & form a public alliance with the democrats. But then at least everyone's cards would be on the table.
The socialist party and the communist party stopped trying to be third parties because they wanted results more than principled voters so they took over the democrap party.
It is strange that he is upset at a narrow loss and is proposing and idea to loose by even greater numbers. Genius.
I hear GW’s nephew has filed in Tx to run for office. NO MORE BUSHES
Sarah, TEA party. I can’t think of anything with more potential. The trick would be to get alot of the elected conservative to switch from GOP to the TEA party.
Just run as part of the Independent Party the way the stealth democrats run. It works.
“Sarah, TEA party. I can’t think of anything with more potential. The trick would be to get alot of the elected conservative to switch from GOP to the TEA party.”
This is what I like to read...:)
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