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I'd pay money to see that.
1 posted on 10/14/2012 7:48:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 10/14/2012 7:52:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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“The question is, will Hillary do what it takes to sink Obama?”

Hillary will do whatever is good for Hillary period.


3 posted on 10/14/2012 7:54:49 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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"....Joe Biden would be poised to run and be the nominee. "

WAY Beyond unbelievable.

4 posted on 10/14/2012 7:55:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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“she fears many in the Democrat Party would hold it against her that she destroyed Obama’s reelection chances.”

She could kiss the black vote good bye if she did that. The blacks would never forgive her. I believe that would destroy her 2016 chances if they are not gone already. I think the best way for her to get even is through leaks harmful to Obama. This could really get good. That 9/11 date is coming in handy for this election.


5 posted on 10/14/2012 7:57:03 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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Hillary is too chicken to do anything but suck up to her Mack-daddy.


7 posted on 10/14/2012 8:01:55 PM PDT by gotribe (He's a mack-daddy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV415yit7Zg)
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I hate to say it, but once again, this is not necessarily an either/or situation.

As with the Gun-Runner scandal, Barry and Hillary are both up to their necks in this, IMHO. The State Department refused to fund security for embassies, although they apparently have plenty of money for it. And Hillary jumped in and lied with the best of them when the murder broke into the news.

Not only that, but Barry’s love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood, and his penchant for siding with the Arabs, is no worse than Hillary’s love affair with the same Muslim terrorists.

It would be one thing if she refused to be thrown under the bus because she had nothing to do with it. But I think the tar of guilt is smeared all over her as well as over Barry Hussein.

Of course, the media are incredibly skilled at hiding such guilt, and they would jump to do it if they thought that Hillary would make the best replacement for Barry in implementing their Communist, one-world designs.


8 posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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There is a back room where all deals are made. Obama has something on the Clintons or they would not serve him despite all his betrayals of them. Obama knows how to press buttons and manipulate his puppets. Only those who love and serve the truth can avoid the fear and greed of cult Obama. If the heart is impure, Obama can get in there and rule.


10 posted on 10/14/2012 8:04:15 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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I don’t see Obobo throwing anybody under any bus. What are you looking at? Besides, the News Media decides who gets thrown under any buses. And they are sitting on this scandal.
So what can WE do about THEM ?


11 posted on 10/14/2012 8:04:34 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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Second, as soon as Obama is reelected, Bill and Hillary will be cast on the trash heap. Not only will the Obama team blame Hillary for Benghazi, they will spend the next four years totally destroying her. Obama hates the Clintons. Theirs has been an alliance of necessity for the last four years but once the election is over, Obama does not need them any more.

This, I believe, is true .... Clintons will be persona non grata to Obama if he's re-elected and the former SoS will be blamed for everything .... she might become the new 'Bush'.

14 posted on 10/14/2012 8:06:26 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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Sounds like a fairy tale... but Hillary is washed up... she has been used like a scullery wash rag and she has no bearing on reality (what liberal does)... she thinks she is serving a noble progressive cause and imagines herself “queen of the trampled”... she counts it a badge of honor to be discarded for the high cause of progressivism, almost the same as a jihadist suicide bomber gives up his body for his fanatical illusion.


16 posted on 10/14/2012 8:08:53 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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I’ll bet Hillary is cutting a backroom deal as we speak.


17 posted on 10/14/2012 8:09:02 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Hillary’s political career is toast is she does not distance herself from Obama.


19 posted on 10/14/2012 8:10:32 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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The question is, will Hillary do what it takes to sink Obama?

Only if it can be done in such way that she has *complete* denial-ability.

For reasons we can only guess at, she took a dive in 08 and allowed him to get the nomination. She had the ammo to put his lazy ass through a PR meat grinder and didn't. The Clintons are as cold, calculating and ruthless as they come. It's hard to believe she will take the fall for this.

OTOH, what could possibly have compelled them/her to kiss off a sure thing in getting the 08 nomination? And is that unknown still in play?

20 posted on 10/14/2012 8:11:27 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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... Hillary, old sister, daughter — free yourself from the bondage of this party you serve. They have throw you under the bus so many times — have you no pride ?? Walk away now, as I did in 2008 when they first threw you under. My Country is more important than my personal wants. Hillary “your” party left you a long while back — why can’t you and Bill ‘get that.’


21 posted on 10/14/2012 8:13:07 PM PDT by nightmarewhileawake
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With all due respect to Judson, he ignores the fact that the State Department
is responsible for Embassy security. And who is head of the the State Department? Hillary Clinton. The death of 4 Americans is HER FAILURE.

The lies and cover-up are a complete different issue. Hillary Clinton does not
need to be given a pass. She needs to be taken down politically, as well,
so that lying beast does not come back to haunt us in 2016.
Why is Bill fighting so hard to protect her now? Because she plans to run in
2016. Take her out NOW while we have the chance. And take Obama & Biden
down, as well.


22 posted on 10/14/2012 8:15:52 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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Yup. I think this scenario is entirely possible. Bill Clinton resents the hell out of Obama taking what was ‘rightfully his’ - the Democrat party. He and Hillary had worked their entire scheming lives for it, and then along came this Usurper. I cannot see him/them possibly letting Obama dump his failures off on her. It would be the ultimate insult to wreck whatever reputation/legacy she has, not to mention any chance for 2016.

Obama is pretty much screwed, it seems to me. Either he contradicts Biden and comes off like a total idiot - or - he sticks it to Hillary and risks the Revenge of the Clintons.

For Bill at least, this is a tailor-made crisis. He can deliver payback to Obama and protect Hillary’s legacy in one shot. Ask yourself, which option does the most good for the Clintons?


23 posted on 10/14/2012 8:16:24 PM PDT by bigbob
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Hillary will be gone as Sec. of State by November if Obama wins, and January if he loses.

There is nothing for her to gain by opposing Obama before the election. If Obama loses, she will be first in line to trash Obama’s reputation. If Obama wins, she will lay low for 1 year, then begin organizing her Presidential campaign


25 posted on 10/14/2012 8:18:53 PM PDT by PGR88
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Theirs has been an alliance of necessity for the last four years but once the election is over, Obama does not need them any more.

That's what he does. Ever since his father did it to his mother and to him.

26 posted on 10/14/2012 8:22:31 PM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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The puppet masters who pull obama’s strings put the Clintons on the spot. With PUMA voters ready to stay at home Hillary was asked very publicly to be SOS. She was made an offer she couldn’t refuse. And I’m sure the Clintons have hated obama and company ever since. But, for some reason, they’re extremely afraid of that machine.


27 posted on 10/14/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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There will be a few jabs thrown to make it look like they’re fighting, but they’re in this mess together. Someone on another post talked about offering Hillary a plea bargain. Not yet effective. We’re not at that stage, yet. The Democrats might offer Hillary or Obama or both a deal to save the Democrat party. Kennedy had fewer problems than these two when he went away.


32 posted on 10/14/2012 9:01:58 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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