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Romney: 'If We Want to Get Rid of Obamacare, We're Going to Have to Replace President Obama'
The Weekly Standard ^ | June 28, 2012 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 06/28/2012 5:10:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney reacted to the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision by saying that, "if we want to get rid of Obamacare, we're going to have to replace President Obama."

"Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do," Romney said today, speaking in Washington, D.C. "What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it's good policy."

Romney added: "Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It's bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today."

This presidential election is "a choice," Romney said. "You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you're comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you're willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want."

"This is the time of choice for the American people," Romney said.

Romney concluded: "Help us. Help us defeat Obamacare. Help us defeat the liberal agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive, and is killing jobs across this great country."

Here's video:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; deathpanels; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; romneycare4u; romneycarelives; socializedmedicine; zerocare
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To: MeanGreen2008

Then go! Begone.

I’ll die right here. I weep for it, but I love my country.


41 posted on 06/28/2012 5:42:45 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (T)
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To: crusader71

Thanks for letting me know. All day today I had been reading that we need 60 seats in the Senate in order to kill the bill(Besides electing Romney of course)


42 posted on 06/28/2012 5:42:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Kickass Conservative

We need 50 +1

http://www.houseconservatives.com/

http://senateconservatives.com/

we need the house and senate,too.


43 posted on 06/28/2012 5:43:41 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Pleading with people to vote for your rino with a teen’s blustering attempt at playing manly doesn’t make you anymore convincing.


44 posted on 06/28/2012 5:45:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Singapore is about the only one on this list that isn’t in a mad rush downhill. I mean how long is China going to permit its province of Hong Kong freedom?


45 posted on 06/28/2012 5:47:04 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; EEGator; mike_9958; no-to-illegals; All

Salve

I was about to write this in vanity, I decided to give you in response better.

While many run on emotions, and surely they are right to be upset of this, this battle might be lost, but war is still ongoing.

I would like to bring something to this equation, from different prospective.

I call it Avalanche scenario.

1. With this ruling, taxes will have to be raised in order to compensate for all the suppose services giving to those who can’t or will not be able to have Health proper insurance.

2. Problem – sole purposes of business is to make profit, if small businesses, and I would like to emphasize this can’t or will not be able to afford taxes, or will decide to pass those taxes on products which will be the case, costumers will be hit in their packet harder as will others, who believe in free trading of assets.

3. After while majority of people will left work force for reasons that if you make 1300$ a week or two weeks and your check after deduction of this expenditure comes to 700$ that person better and will move from be a producer to be on government sponsors programs, therefore unemployment will rise, less revenue’s will be giving to Government, and you will have more people on paper money then real money. Absolute destruction of private enterprise.

4. Doctors as well private physician’s will have no choice but either to close their private clinics and move off shore, or removed themselves from system all together, this will hit preventive care as well all serious medical conditions, and most insurances will either not cover the treatments or will be force to raise premiums on those who have and work hard.

5. Majorities of companies will not be able to sustain heavy adding of services into insurances as many workers will decide to on government bailout then work, for it makes no sense to work, if you can receive same plan as those who do.

6. This will have unprecedented effect of effecting any business abilities in USA, as it will be too expensive to conduct research and development of new effective drugs, and other medicine, when majority will be on subsidies and will hamper on capabilities for Pharmaceutical companies to introduce new products, even with expenditure of governmental breaks out.

7. At the end once Avalanche process is finish, you have a good idea what will happen to rest of the country –…….

Now, this battle is not over, there are still some choices left, limited yes, they are still there. Now is up to you to unite and bring true conservatives to Both Chambers of your government. Real ones who know how to fight a real fight not a girly stance.

If I have offended any one, my apology, but more you cry less you will pee, time to start cleaning the house friends your style in your house.

Merci.


46 posted on 06/28/2012 5:47:11 PM PDT by MCSP2008 (Romanian native > ESL)
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To: UB355

There is no longer any choice. We don’t have the luxury of just voting down-ballot, writing in someone’s name, voting for some staunch conservative third-partier who has no more chance of being elected than we do or not voting at all. Civil war has been declared and we must pick a side. There are only two parties in the USA, pick one.


47 posted on 06/28/2012 5:47:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whether we like it or not - voting for Romney is the last hail Mary shot we have for getting rid of Obama and Obamacare.

Yes, we also need Republican control of the Senate and retain the House - we need all of it.

But, if Obama is not removed, EVEN if we gain the Senate and retain the House - he will never sign a repeal. And, unless the Republicans win a huge majority in the Senate and the House there is no way that they can overturn it.

So, I say again - whether you like Mitt, hate Mitt, whatever - he is the last shot to remove all of this. If he doesn’t do it, then we formally, finally, last nail in the coffin royally screwed.


48 posted on 06/28/2012 5:48:30 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: MCSP2008
time to start cleaning the house friends your style in your house.

Working on it FRiend.

49 posted on 06/28/2012 5:53:09 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Signalman
kMitt is right but...he’s going to have to explain what he’s going to replace Obamacare with. Just getting rid of it is only half the battle.

He doesn't have to, nor should he suggest a replacement. The vast majority of Americans (85%) are quite content with their health insurance. Romney doesn't need to replace the current situation with anything.

50 posted on 06/28/2012 5:54:52 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The major problem am sensing is the repeal could take until 2017. I have to wonder will Americans sit still that long and cling to the ballot box? Some of the posts have been crazy today. What if ... the ifs have it?


51 posted on 06/28/2012 5:57:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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Obama’s biggest lie – “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”

Full List of Obamacare Tax Hikes

Obamacare law contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses

Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.

Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses. 

Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where to find them in the bill, and how much your taxes are scheduled to go up as of today:

Taxes that took effect in 2010:

1. Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/immediate): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

2. Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion).  This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

3. “Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion).  This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

4. Tax on Innovator Drug Companies ($22.2 bil/Jan 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

5. Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike ($0.4 bil/Jan 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

6. Tax on Indoor Tanning Services ($2.7 billion/July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

Taxes that took effect in 2011:

7. Medicine Cabinet Tax ($5 bil/Jan 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

8. HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike ($1.4 bil/Jan 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

Tax that took effect in 2012:

9. Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 (Min$/Jan 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

Taxes that take effect in 2013:

10. Surtax on Investment Income ($123 billion/Jan. 2013):  Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single).  This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income: Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93

 

Capital Gains

Dividends

Other*

2012

15%

15%

35%

2013+

23.8%

43.4%

43.4%

 

*Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations.  It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income.  It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans.  The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.

11. Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax ($86.8 bil/Jan 2013): Current law and changes:

 

First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee

All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike

1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed

 

Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93

12. Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers ($20 bil/Jan 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax.  Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

13. Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI ($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI).  The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

14. Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” ($13 bil/Jan 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited).  Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.  There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education.  Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs educationBill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

15. Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D ($4.5 bil/Jan 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

16. $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives ($0.6 bil/Jan 2013). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

Taxes that take effect in 2014:

17. Individual Mandate Excise Tax (Jan 2014): Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following

 

1 Adult

2 Adults

3+ Adults

2014

1% AGI/$95

1% AGI/$190

1% AGI/$285

2015

2% AGI/$325

2% AGI/$650

2% AGI/$975

2016 +

2.5% AGI/$695

2.5% AGI/$1390

2.5% AGI/$2085

 

Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases (determined by HHS). Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337

18. Employer Mandate Tax (Jan 2014):  If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees.  Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion/10 years

19. Tax on Health Insurers ($60.1 bil/Jan 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year.  Phases in gradually until 2018.  Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

Taxes that take effect in 2018:

20. Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans ($32 bil/Jan 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family).  Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions.  CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956


52 posted on 06/28/2012 5:58:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: unixfox

51 to repeal.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/with-51-senators-gop-can-eliminate-mandate/article/2500865


53 posted on 06/28/2012 5:59:08 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Tzimisce
Thank God we stopped:

Who knows what damage these two would have done!

54 posted on 06/28/2012 5:59:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Ave.

Very good!!!!

Merci.


55 posted on 06/28/2012 6:00:03 PM PDT by MCSP2008 (Romanian native > ESL)
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To: TurboZamboni

The rule, in the Senate, of 60 is currently in effect. Am thinking that rule will continue until 60 is reached.


56 posted on 06/28/2012 6:01:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Not new Zealand

its Socialist...


57 posted on 06/28/2012 6:02:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason theres only two is that many try to co opt one of the two rather than starting a third.

Can anyone name the GOP nominee they supported?

There’s your sign that you are wasting your time in trying to make the GOP into the Constitution Party.


58 posted on 06/28/2012 6:03:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

US is 10th.

1-9 are less socialist.

And that was before today!


59 posted on 06/28/2012 6:04:53 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Civil war has been declared and we must pick a side. There are only two parties in the USA, pick one.
Yup.
60 posted on 06/28/2012 6:05:20 PM PDT by samtheman (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/21/obamas-socialist-designs/)
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