Posted on 01/16/2012 9:22:12 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
(CBS News) Pastor Joel Osteen, one of America's most popular religious figures, said on "CBS This Morning" that GOP candidate Mitt Romney believes in Jesus like he does.
"What I see about Governor Romney is that he says, 'I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God, he's raised from the dead and he's my savior.' I see him as being a believer in Christ, like me."
Charlie Rose said, "That's enough for you?"
"That's enough for me," Osteen said. "There's differences in all religion. I realize Mormonism is different from Christianity, but you know what, he's a man of faith and values. And to me, that's strong."
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How strange that so many people watch Pastor Osteen’s program and attend his church. Funny - they call themselves Christian, too. It seems that the judges of who’s a Christian and who’s not congregate here on FR - it’s like a religion they have created - one that condemns everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as they do to hell. Very strange indeed but very telling.
Is Osteen a Christian?
Not on FR.
“Osteen is a slimy smarmy grifter of a snake-oil salesman.”
Posts like that give FR a bad name.
Looks to me like Osteen doesn’t know the difference between Jesus the Word who created this world and is God or Jesus the created brother of angels or Jesus the Mexican guy down the street.
If Osteen’s faith in Christ is no greater than that of JugEars, then Osteen is in sad shape.
—And to me, that’s strong.—
What exactly does that mean? Hitler was strong. Satan is strong. But neither is/was “strong enough”.
They want the Mormon vote.
Jesus Christ is my Savior, my Redeemer, and my Best Friend. This is Heavenly Father’s Plan of Salvation and the Holy Ghost seals this in my heart. Deal with this: Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.
How strange that so many people watch Pastor Osteen’s program and attend his church. Funny - they call themselves Christian, too. It seems that the judges of who’s a Christian and who’s not congregate here on FR - it’s like a religion they have created - one that condemns everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as they do to hell. Very strange indeed but very telling.
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
—It seems that the judges of who’s a Christian and who’s not congregate here on FR - it’s like a religion they have created - one that condemns everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as they do to hell. Very strange indeed but very telling.—
That’s really not what is going on here. I cannot say who is a Christian, nor can Joel. It is between each person and Jesus. We are not to judge others.
That said, we are instructed to judge the TEACHING of others. I’m not willing to say that any man is going to hell. I, myself, have a rather unconventional vision of hell myself: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2240648/posts
Osteen is a moron and has left the reservation. When you start preaching “name and claim it” you have gone over the cliff.
Not surprising you feel a kinship, he is not preaching Biblical concepts any longer.
The full name of the Mormon religion is Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. So the Mormons do have some fealty with the historic figure Jesus Christ, and it is part of their testament.
Some could allow themselves to despise others for their interpretation of who Christ was, and what He is supposed to signify, but that in no way makes that person a “better” Christian, or even a better human being.
In my personal contact with the LDS people of Utah, they have been known for being honest in their dealings, hard-working in all their endeavors, and willing to step forth with alacrity and extend a helping hand when they see a stranger who may have stumbled. But no matter how well you might deal with them in the market place, it is a rare thing indeed for a non-Mormon to come visit a Mormon in his own home.
And some find this off-putting.
This does not surprise me one little bit.
I have no doubt that when Christ returns he will tell us we’re all doing it wrong, Mormons and holy rollers alike.
" who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
—Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.—
That is the Christian message. If you add anything to it (regarding saving you from your sins) it stops being Christian. If you believe there is anything you can do to remove your condemnation for sins beyond accepting his free gift (mentioned above), you no longer carry the message of Christ.
Mormonism is America’s ISLAM.
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Lol !! Wait, you were SERIOUS?
You said it so eloquently. Thank you.
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