[Saundra Duffy]

Jesus Christ is my Savior, my Redeemer, and my Best Friend. This is Heavenly Father’s Plan of Salvation and the Holy Ghost seals this in my heart. Deal with this: Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.

How strange that so many people watch Pastor Osteen’s program and attend his church. Funny - they call themselves Christian, too. It seems that the judges of who’s a Christian and who’s not congregate here on FR - it’s like a religion they have created - one that condemns everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as they do to hell. Very strange indeed but very telling.

[cuban leaf]

—Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.—

That is the Christian message. If you add anything to it (regarding saving you from your sins) it stops being Christian. If you believe there is anything you can do to remove your condemnation for sins beyond accepting his free gift (mentioned above), you no longer carry the message of Christ.

[svcw]

Sandy you repeat this “I am being condemned to hell” crap all the time. It simply is not true, no one has said that. No one goes to hell except by their own free will, it is a choice we all must make - one way or the other - it is your choice no one else’s.

[CynicalBear]

>>Jesus Christ is my Savior, my Redeemer, and my Best Friend.<<

Jesus Christ claimed to be God, the Creator of the cosmos, the one and only way by which we can enter into Heaven. These are high claims!

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

John 8:12: Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I AM the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." When Jesus said, "I am the Aleph and the Tav," He was saying I am the Word, (or logos, written Word) that was in the beginning. In the first line of the Torah, in the first line of the first verse in Genesis, He was there with God! He was in the beginning and all things were created through Him.

Do you believe that the Jesus you profess is indeed the same as the God who created the world?

[Campion]

Jesus Christ is my Savior, my Redeemer, and my Best Friend. This is Heavenly Father’s Plan of Salvation and the Holy Ghost seals this in my heart. Deal with this: Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.

Do you pray to Jesus, Saundra?

[Elsie]

How strange that so many people watch Pastor Osteen’s program and attend his church.

Broad is the way...

[Elsie]

It seems that the judges of who’s a Christian and who’s not congregate here on FR - it’s like a religion they have created - one that condemns everyone who doesn’t believe exactly as they do to hell. Very strange indeed but very telling.

So I guess in YOUR eyes, headquarters, in SLC, is a bunch of HYPOCRITs for telling others who can be a MORMON.

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http://newsroom.lds.org/article/church-seeks-to-address-public-confusion-over-texas-polygamy-group

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Very telling inDEED!

[Elsie]

Step One:

Deal with this: Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.

Step Two:

 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

 - Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

 

 

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

 

 

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

 

 

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

 

 

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

 - Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

 

 

 

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

 - Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

 

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They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

 Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

[dragonblustar]

Jesus Christ is my Savior, my Redeemer, and my Best Friend. This is Heavenly Father’s Plan of Salvation and the Holy Ghost seals this in my heart. Deal with this: Jesus Christ gave His life for me to save me from my sins.

Matthew 7: 21

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

[Apollo5600]

He denies Jesus Christ by endorsing a Mormon cultist. He is weak and is unwilling to stand up for the saving message of Christ that you claim to embrace from him. There is a hell, and there is need for repentance. Being a “man of faith” is not good enough. One must have faith in Jesus Christ.

[TheBattman]

Osteen preaches success, health, wealth, Abrahamic blessings and self-esteem classes under the guise of preaching. His infrequent use of the Bible is almost always completely out of context and would be classified by any Bible-beleiver as abuse of scripture.

Osteen avoids discussions of sin, of eternal damnation/hell, he refuses to label what the Bible calls sin as sin, and completely obfuscate biblical truths for his flavor of pep-rally.

So when he identifies someone (anyone) as a “believer in Christ” like himself, that immediately throws up red flags. I suppose Osteen also identifies Obama as a “believer in Christ like him”...