Posted on 01/10/2012 10:50:31 AM PST by Graewoulf
Rep. Dr. Ron Paul is the only Candidate now running who:
1.) Has a comprehensive platform that will cut BASELINE Federal spending.
2.) Insists that all of the planks in his platform are consistent with the US Constitution.
3.) Accepts the fact that the USA can no longer financially afford to be the World’s policeman.
4.) Fully understands how to dismantle the disastrous Federal medical “entitlements” of Medicare, Medicaid, and the illegal Obama”care.”
5.) Has a comprehensive plan to abolish or dramatically shrink 5 Federal Departments, or Bureaus.
These positions set Dr. Paul apart from the rest of the Candidates who stubbornly cling to the time-honored traditions of "The Bipartisan Cave-In" by the RINO Political Party. (Democrats NEVER cave-in, but they still call it Bipartisan.)
I enjoy reading about the furor caused by Ron Paul rocking the boat. Paul offers a clear philosophical break to the leadership of the RINO Party, and thus has triggered the fear emotion of “fight or flight” among many faithful RINOs.
Four years from now, Senator Rand Paul will probably run for POTUS. Watch closely this year, and compare what you see to what Rand will be saying 4 years from now.
As usual, the “most electable” RINO will be chosen as the Party Nominee in Tampa, a failed and time-tested method of “playing not to lose,” just like the way losing teams do in football.
Nonetheless, Rep. Paul has defined a platform that the RINO Party must take some planks from to avoid going the way of the Whig Political Party.
Easy: first, he won’t win, so it doesn’t matter. Second, he isn’t a Republican. Nuf said.
This should be fun.....who has the viking kitty list?
Paul is neither a conservative nor a Republican.
Ron Paul is to the constitution as Fred Phelps is to the Bible.
“Four years from now, Senator Rand Paul will probably run for POTUS. Watch closely this year, and compare what you see to what Rand will be saying 4 years from now.”
I live in Kentucky and voted for Rand Paul, but I can assure you.......no one from Kentucky is going to get elected president.
Paul talks like an anti-colonist. It is one thing to question an intervention, certainly to condemn nation-building, quite another to ignore that we have a legitimate interest in the Middle East. If this causes us to clash with a resurgent Islam, we still have that interest. Paul would better serve by demanding we abandon an energy policy to requires us to import oil and maximize exploration. But our necessary connection with Europe prevents us from a concern about the dependence of that continent on the oil from the Persian Gulf. Increased North American production would allow us to lessen that dependence. North America potentially has more production than the Gulf.
I think you need to go back to the Ron Paul forums and get some new talking points.
But now they believe in growing government too.
Just at a slower pace than the Democrats.
Think about it. The last time they were in charge, under Bush, the government grew the fastest since LBJ. That is outside the September 11th, 2001 response.
Mitt Romney is nothing but Obama with an “R” by his name.
So no it will not be Ron Paul, but the Republican Party itself that imploded thanks to Republicans betraying their principals of limited government.
It is a disgrace the the Republican Party would even permit such a liberal as Paul to engage others GOP candidates in debates, caucuses and polls.
From Paul’s racism, to his pro dope alliance with Barney Fag, to his Soros funding, to his Iran friendly policies, to his plans to gut the armed forces, to his trutherism and on and on and on....
Paul is a fraud, a liar and a nut. He hides behind the Constitution as he fools idiots into swallowing his lies.
1st he won’t win.
2nd he will have zero effect on the Republican Party.
Lastly, I many not have him over for Thanksgiving this year.
Let’s break this down item by item.
1.) Has a comprehensive platform that will cut BASELINE Federal spending.
This would be nice, however Congress is ultimately responsible for the budget, and without both houses, this won’t be easy. I will state that until the GOP congress (assuming they get the Senate) kills baseline budgeting, they are not serious about controlling the debt.
2.) Insists that all of the planks in his platform are consistent with the US Constitution.
Who’s interpretation? The Democrats are quite happy with their interpretation which lets them do anything they like. Almost half of SCOTUS agrees with the Dems. The way Paul talks, he sounds rather imperial in what he will do as president, but much of what he advocates is not in the scope of powers of that office.
3.) Accepts the fact that the USA can no longer financially afford to be the World’s policeman.
Even if the U.S. could afford it, Paul would be against it. He’s got a blame America first mentality like the Left when it comes to foreign policy, and he uses very specious arguments when he discuses the topic (referring to embassy guards as overseas military deployments- please). But say you do remove the U.S. as global hegemon, who takes over? Someone will, you can be assured. You can also bet that the successor will not be as amenable to U.S. interests.
4.) Fully understands how to dismantle the disastrous Federal medical “entitlements” of Medicare, Medicaid, and the illegal Obama”care.”
Paul is going dismantle Medicare, Medicaid and Obamacare? Well that last is possibly doable since it doesn’t have deep roots in the populace yet. However the other two are at best going to be reformed to be affordable, they are not going away any time soon. Any belief otherwise is delusional. (This is not to say I disagree they should go away, but reality says they won’t).
5.) Has a comprehensive plan to abolish or dramatically shrink 5 Federal Departments, or Bureaus.
Again, this is a matter for Congress, not the President. I appreciate having such a plan, but planning and implementation in this case is one hell of a gap.
It amazing to many how many people do not know what a conservative is and or try to redefine it.
You know what a conservative is read about the founding fathers.
Ron Paul is to the constitution as Fred Phelps is to the Bible.
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That is so true.
I would add that Ron Paul is to Republicans what Dennis Kucinich is to Democrats.
Yep, and it is not Ron Paul.
Its a shame some of his better domestic ideas get lost in the sea of his foreign policy stupidity. And I say that as someone who voted for him before. More SMALL GOVERNMENT ideology, less BLAME AMERICA.
IBTZ
The purpose of this thread is to encourage thought on the effect Ron Paul will have on the Republican Party in this watershed National Election, and beyond.
Win, lose or draw, each Candidate has a effect on the Party, to a greater or lesser degree.
My question to all of you is:
“What effect do YOU predict will be made, temporary or permanent, by the Campaign of Ron Paul on the Republican Party?
From what I see so far, there is a lot of quiet support among the voters for Ron Paul, and a lot of emotion against Ron Paul by everybody else.
My intent is to set aside emotion and ponder what effect Dr. Paul will have on a truly sorry, spineless, Republican Party leadership, especially in Congress.
BTW, if the Republican Nominee wins the Presidency, but has the same ideas as Obama, then who has actually “won?”
Yup the neocons, pro war democrats, have taken over the GOP. Conservativism is dead in the GOP.
Rep. Dr. Ron Paul is the only Candidate now running who:
1) Has been in Congress for many years and has accomplished none of his alleged goals.
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