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Ron Paul: I Wouldn't Risk US Troops to Stop the Holocaust
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | December 27, 2011 | Ace

Posted on 12/27/2011 11:01:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As a historical matter, the US didn't risk troops to end the Holocaust; FDR rejected Morgenthau's entreaties that he bomb the train lines to Auschwitz or take similar actions, on the theory that the US wouldn't support the war if it became perceived as a War for Jews. FDR seemed to believe there was a lot of anti-semitism in the country.

Speaking of which:

And so I asked Congressman Paul: if he were President of the United States during World War II, and as president he knew what we now know about the Holocaust, but the Third Reich presented no threat to the U.S., would he have sent American troops to Nazi Germany purely as a moral imperative to save the Jews?” And the Congressman answered: “No, I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t risk American lives to do that. If someone wants to do that on their own because they want to do that, well, that’s fine, but I wouldn’t do that.”

Paul then looked at me, and I politely thanked him for his time. He smiled at me again and nodded his head, and many of his young followers were also smiling, and nodding their heads in agreement. Clearly, I was the only one in the room who was disturbed by his response.

We didn't fight WW2 to end the Holocaust, of course. FDR specifically rejected any actions which might reduce the German's Jew-murdering machine.

But Ron Paul seems to believe we did. It's always the Jews.

Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist. He denies this charge vociferously. But I can tell you straight out, I had countless arguments/discussions with him over his personal views. For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that “saving the Jews,” was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just “blowback,” for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such.

I would challenge him, like for example, what about the instances of German U-boats attacking U.S. ships, or even landing on the coast of North Carolina or Long Island, NY. He’d finally concede that that and only that was reason enough to counter-attack against the Nazis, not any humanitarian causes like preventing the Holocaust.

But Ron Paul goes a step further than that: He actually casts WWII, which was not a "humanitarian" intervention, as a humanitarian intervention, just so the facts agree with his eternal conclusion.

Of course Ron Paul's supporters don't sweat details like that. They've got bigger issues to worry themselves about.

When not listening to Alex Jones and Jeff Rense, chemtrail believers obsessively take photographs of the “poison trails” and “evil clouds.” Of course, since the alien-lizard-Zionist-Bilderbergers forbid the puppet governments of the world from admitting that chemtrails exist, the intrepid chemtrail hunters have been stymied. Sure, they can photograph them, but they can’t stop ‘em.

Or CAN they? This year, a movement has spread like dengue fever among chemtrail sleuths. This movement claims that chemtrails can be “killed” with vinegar, sprayed upward from the ground. And hundreds of chemtrail true believers are doing just that – and they’re uploading videos to Youtube, Dailymotion, Ebaumsworld, and elsewhere, documenting their chemtrail “kills.”

Of the hundreds of “chemtrail kill” videos, the majority are made by self-described Ron Paul supporters. I’ve dubbed this branch of the Paul camp the “Paulsamics” (as in “Paulsamic vinegar”). If you want to see the sheer volume of Paulsamic videos online, just Google or Youtube-search “chemtrails” and “vinegar.” Below, I’ve embedded the very best video of the lot. It’s ten minutes long. Normally, I would grab a video of that length and edit a highlight reel. But it’s impossible to edit this one down; it’s too damn perfect as it is. Watch as a chemtrail-obsessed, Ron Paul-obsessed mom uses her trusty spray bottle to combat the marauding trails, as her long-suffering teenage son is forced to record her. Witness her great victory as she reemerges later to find that she has “cleaned the sky.”

Video at the link. This is what really bothers me about Ron Paul. He's not merely courting the paranoid fringe; he is the paranoid fringe. I can almost deal with the racism and antisemitism. These are easily understandable, at least. We're used to such things and prepared for the distortions in thought such impulses will produce.

What I cannot abide is a "man's" full-tilt white-knuckle freak-out over the "New Money."

Congressman Ron Paul Monday morning

Dear Fellow American:

You may not have much time left.

Next year, or next month, the New Money could wipe you out — destroy everything you’ve worked and saved for — and leave your family destitute.

It could happen any time. And I don’t mind telling you I’m scared. For myself, for my family, for my friends, for my country.

We’ve seen a lot of financial tyrannies from Washington in this century. This one could take the cake. And popping out of the cake, with a big Surprise!, will be an IRS agent with an AK-47.

Picture this: your feet are aching, your back is sore, and your patience ran out about two hours ago. How dare these bureaucrats treat you like this? How dare they make you wait in this line, this incredibly tedious line, to turn in your greenbacks? Then, when it’s finally your turn, it’s not so tedious after all.

An IRS agent with the dead eyes of a mako shark, asks — with that chilling police politeness — for your name, address, Social Security number, and “explanation.” From his tone and body language, you expect the Miranda warning next.

While muggers, robbers, and rapists run free on the streets, the power of the state is focused on you.

And no wonder. You’re a suspicious character. You’ve always kept some emergency cash. And now you’re in trouble. . . because you tried to take care of yourself and your family, because you saved and planned ahead.

When President Bush announced the New Money during a War-on-Drugs speech, few realized what it meant, or just how bad it would be — for innocent Americans, not drug dealers. Turning in all your old money for a new currency wasn’t so bad. They’d done it often enough in Latin America, after all.


I uncovered the New Money plans during my last term in the U.S. Congress, and I held the ugly new bills in my hands. I can tell you — they made my skin crawl.

These totalitarian bills were tinted pink and blue and brown, and blighted with holograms, diffraction gratings, metal and plastic threads, and chemical alarms. It wasn’t money for a free people. It was a portable inquisition, a paper “third-degree,” to allow the feds to keep track of American cash, and American citizens.

As one federal scientist confirmed to me, these bills can be computer imprinted and read, to lay a paper trail hundreds of transactions long. Who uses them, when, and where. The taggents — chemical alarms — will set off federal cash-detection machines at airports and anyplace else they choose. And there are other swindles involved as well.

Thank goodness, a patriotic American within the Federal Reserve told me about this financial Manhattan Project. But this time, the government wants to drop the bomb on us.

To manufacture the New Money, the feds have built a colossal blockhouse in Ft. Worth, Texas, as ugly as it is evil. Designed in Stalin-style, guarded by KGB-level security, and full of three-color printing presses and spy device embedders, it belongs in Moscow, not Texas.

Stage One of the New Money — microprinting and a polyester thread — was meant to lull us to sleep, before the knife fell. But the bureaucrats’ scheme went awry when the old Bureau of Engraving and Printing plant in Washington, D.C., couldn’t handle the new technology.

They’ve fixed that now, and Stage Two will chill your blood.

The New Money will steal our freedom and our prosperity; it will accelerate the transfer wealth and power from the people to the government and its friends.

Yeah, the "New Money" is now in your wallets and it exists, as was always planned, to make it a little harder for North Korea to counterfeit.

If a man were a dedicated UFOlogist and believed in all of it, and was convinced Men in Black existed and all of that too, would we consider electing him just because some of his alleged "policies" were conservative-sounding?

No, we wouldn't, because we'd question his judgment. A man who is afraid of shadow-people and faeries in the garden has an addled mind which cannot distinguish between serious threats, less serious threats which are nonetheless real, and just made-up "I want to worry about this so I don't have to worry about real things" fun-time phantasmal threats.

Ron Paul is crazy. People toss this term around a lot, but I'm saying it seriously, not metaphorically. Political paranoia is just a low-grade, livable form of the serious mental illness called paranoid schizophrenia. And it causes all sorts of misprioritizations.

While Ron Paul worries about Conspiracies Against The Currency, for example, others of us worry about, say, Islamists killing people by the hundreds.

Now, Ron Paul insists the former worry -- the Conspiracy Against the Currency -- is real, and the latter concern, the terrorist one, is made-up by neocons and Jews (but I repeat myself).

The man is literally crazy, at least in a low-level, non-commitment, doesn't-expose-himself-in-public way, and apparently Step One in our effort to take back the White House is to announce to America, in Iowa, that this man represents our views.

Of course, half or more of his support isn't even from conservatives or Republicans, but what are conservatives and Republicans doing adding to his numbers?

TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: 2012; israel; jews; ronpaul
A question I ask myself a lot, especially lately.
1 posted on 12/27/2011 11:01:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And another reason not to vote Paul the antii-Semitic sot.

2 posted on 12/27/2011 11:12:08 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

would Ron Paul do anything in regards to Pearl Harbour?

3 posted on 12/27/2011 11:16:29 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Posted already this morning...

Besides, who owns this, a Shapiro or Ace?



4 posted on 12/27/2011 11:25:15 PM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hurray, another Ron Paul bashing article, from a blog.

5 posted on 12/27/2011 11:33:36 PM PST by pterional
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Not even close to being the same column.

6 posted on 12/27/2011 11:35:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: pterional

So? Guy is an idiot, his ideas will get thousands of people killed.

7 posted on 12/28/2011 12:17:34 AM PST by IamCenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ron Paul is crazy. People toss this term around a lot, but I'm saying it seriously, not metaphorically.

I'm dead serious when I say it too. Ron Paul is bug nutz crazy. Literally.

8 posted on 12/28/2011 1:31:26 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe America should intervene everywhere genocide is being committed?

9 posted on 12/28/2011 3:11:31 AM PST by Silver Sabre
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To: 4rcane
would Ron Paul do anything in regards to Pearl Harbour?

He would have apologized to the Japanese for the embargo, promise to remove it and then immediately surrender.
10 posted on 12/28/2011 5:45:13 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul: I Wouldn’t Risk US Troops to Stop the Holocaust, I would not risk my vote on you....

11 posted on 12/28/2011 2:10:26 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
12 posted on 12/28/2011 9:36:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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