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Ex-aide calls Rep. Ron Paul's foreign policy views 'pure lunacy'
TheHill.com ^ | 27 Dec 11 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:24 PM PST by seanmerc

A former congressional aide to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has written a piece slamming the presidential hopeful's foreign-policy views, calling them "pure lunacy" in an online post on the conservative website Rightwingnews.com.

The long piece by former aide Eric Dondero alleges awkward treatment by Paul of gays and Jews, but saves its strongest criticisms for his policy positions.

"It’s his foreign policy that’s the problem; not so much some stupid and whacky things on race and gays he may have said or written in the past," he writes.

Dondero writes that Paul does not believe Israel should exist, that the United States should not have gotten involved in World War II, that the government might have known beforehand about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that he planned to vote against the war in Afghanistan before changing his mind for political reasons.

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1 posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:39 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
Dondero writes that Paul does not believe Israel should exist, that the United States should not have gotten involved in World War II, that the government might have known beforehand about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that he planned to vote against the war in Afghanistan before changing his mind for political reasons.

Oh, and he thinks that traitor Bradley Manning is a hero.

Paul is a kook.

2 posted on 12/27/2011 12:35:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
"Paul is a kook." :-)
3 posted on 12/27/2011 12:38:21 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Not much argument here.


4 posted on 12/27/2011 12:38:38 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: seanmerc

LOL! Too true. It is completely obvious that RP is a loon. Unfortunately we do have paulbots here, so there are some people around that still don’t get it.


5 posted on 12/27/2011 12:46:46 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: seanmerc
He strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that 'saving the Jews,' was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times [sic] brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand [sic], or that WWII was just 'blowback,' for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such."

While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler (300K out of 400K servicemen killed were lost fighting the European Axis powers), it's hard to see how we could have avoided fighting the Japanese. Say Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor in advance and had prepared a welcome committee, devastating the Japanese fleet. How would that have changed the fact that the Japanese committed an act of war using large naval forces against a major American installation? And what should the American reaction have been to the Japanese invasion of the Philippines (then US territory) that followed days later? Meekly surrender American men, equipment and territory to the Japanese?

6 posted on 12/27/2011 12:51:45 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: seanmerc

Cut and Run knows how perverted and disruptive gays are. He also wants to destroy America’s military. That is why he wants gays in the military.


7 posted on 12/27/2011 1:04:51 PM PST by John D
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To: Zhang Fei
While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler (300K out of 400K servicemen killed were lost fighting the European Axis powers), it's hard to see how we could have avoided fighting the Japanese.

Isolationists like Paul would argue we should have ignored Japanese aggression in Manchuria and never slapped the oil embargo on Imperial Japan. This is why people like Paul tend to blame America first.

Isolationists/libertarians tend to have a very naive view of the world. They think the US should basically react to nothing unless foreign troops literally land boots on our soil. If an ideological foe is arming itself to the teeth, Paul and his minions tend to believe you should just ignore the problem and it will go away. If we have a great relationship with some country that begins gassing it's population of undesirables, we should do nothing and maintain the status quo. Basically, isolationists are naive, not forward looking and do not believe morality should be a factor in foreign policy.

8 posted on 12/27/2011 1:12:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Zhang Fei
the Japanese invasion of the Philippines (then US territory) that followed days later

Actually 10 hours later. For all intents and purposes the attacks were simultaneous, proving your point.

9 posted on 12/27/2011 1:24:39 PM PST by wideawake
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To: seanmerc

in the last 2008 he stood there and said we needed to get rid of the CIA, FBI.

The man is a complete loon and it is time for every republican to not let this loon ever run on a republican ticket when clearly he’s not a republican but a libertarian.

Time to run AD’s on this loon and informing the public at how much he is a nut.


10 posted on 12/27/2011 1:27:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Zhang Fei
While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler

No we could not have avoided fighting Hitler nor should we have. The topic of Hitler is a good one in that it separates out the rationale people from the kooks.

11 posted on 12/27/2011 1:39:41 PM PST by plain talk
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" ... We pump $40 billion a year into the Japanese economy by providing for essentially all of Japan’s defense. At the same time, Japan out competes us in the market, in effect subsidizing their exports, which then undermines our own domestic steel and auto industries. ..."

"Loyally standing by our ally Israel is in conflict with satisfying the Arab interests that are always represented by big business in each administration. We arm Jordan and Egypt, rescue the PLO (on two occasions), and guarantee that the American taxpayer will be funding both sides of any conflict in the Middle East. ..."

"Our official policy is currently is to be tough on communism, but at the same time promote lower-interests, allowing Red China to buy nuclear technology, F-16s and other military technology – all this by the strongest anti-Communist administration that we’ve had in decades ..."

"We subsidize Red China’s nuclear technology; at the same time, we allow Jane Fonda to ruin ours. ..."

"We continuously sacrifice ourselves to the world by assuming the role of world policeman, which precipitates international rises on a regular basis, all the while neglecting our own defenses. New planes go overseas while our Air National Guard is forced to use planes 20 years old ..."
Ron Paul, Congressional Record, 9/19/84

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
U.S. President Ronald Reagan
12 posted on 12/27/2011 1:47:17 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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Any time I have been able to track down the entire newletter referenced in a Ron Paul smear, the smear has been a dissembling partial truth.

Like him or not Paul, brings to the campaign serious questions that warrant discussion, questions about big government, how US taxpayer money is spent, foreign policy, the role of the Fed...

While my research thus far leads me to believe that Ron Paul is naive regarding the most basic motivation of Jihadis, consider the following:

GW kept reminding us that 'Islam is a religion of 'peace'. Never mentioned that Islam is a total political system and peace is achieved when there is a world wide caliphate under Sharia.

Ultimately Paul's foreign policy would be better for both Israel and Christianity.

While Israel would get no foreign aid, neither would its enemies:
2011 Interview

Newsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Ron Paul:
We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
... Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.
... We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

As a result of nation building, promoting 'democracy' in the middle east, and PC immigration:

Iraq's Christians Near Extinction

Per Pamela Geller "US policy regarding the refugee resettlement program would shock most Americans if they only knew. The UN picks who becomes US refugees. Christians are being refused refugee status and face persecution and many times certain death for their religious beliefs under the sharia, while whole Muslim communities are entering the US by the tens of thousands per month despite the fact that they face no religious persecution"

Paul would stop funding the UN and pull us out of all treaties that impinge upon our sovereignty. His proposed budget would shut down entire federal bureaucracies while preserving military pensions. Could shutting don the tax payer funded trough be what has the political elite so p*ssed?
13 posted on 12/27/2011 1:48:19 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: plain talk
No we could not have avoided fighting Hitler nor should we have.

Could you elaborate on how we could not have avoided fighting Hitler?

14 posted on 12/27/2011 2:01:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Longbow1969
They think the US should basically react to nothing unless foreign troops literally land boots on our soil.

Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish? Even if they could get past our Navy and Air Force how will they get past the National Guard, the hundreds of thousands of armed local, state, and federal cops. How will they overcome the 80,000,000 private gun owners in this country? How will they absorb our nuclear retaliatory strike? I guess Paul plans to get rid of all the US armed forces and the 2nd Amendment.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years? How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?

15 posted on 12/27/2011 2:12:14 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Zhang Fei
Assuming the UK government was completely defeated. Hitler would have demanded a presence if not direct control of Canada. Would we tolerate that or enforce the Monroe Doctrine? (The Monroe Doctrine only became a "dead letter" when we acquiesced to Soviet control of Cuba.) There is precedent for that with how Vichy France was dealt with by Nazi Germany. If the UK government had fled to Canada, as Churchill said he would do, war would come to the western hemisphere whether we liked it or not. Also remember we DID NOT declare war on Nazi Germany! Nazi Germany declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, in fact Hitler was annoyed he had to play second fiddle on declaring war on the US to the Japanese. Of course we did come back with our own declaration, but it was a “pro forma” thing.

“A war avoided is a war you a forced into at a later date to your disadvantage”

16 posted on 12/27/2011 2:19:29 PM PST by Reily
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To: algernonpj
Cut and Run has been in Washington for over a quarter century. If he is against all this why has he not done something? He talks much, does nothing.
I am still asking all the paulbots the same question. If America is as bad a place as the surrender monkey says it is, what has he done in the quarter century plus that he has been in Washington done to make it better. So far not one paulbot can answer.
17 posted on 12/27/2011 2:39:42 PM PST by John D
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To: seanmerc

18 posted on 12/27/2011 3:18:34 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: algernonpj

are you going to deny ron paul called for legalizing drugs, too??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k


19 posted on 12/27/2011 3:25:05 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Roninf5-1
Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish? Even if they could get past our Navy and Air Force how will they get past the National Guard, the hundreds of thousands of armed local, state, and federal cops. How will they overcome the 80,000,000 private gun owners in this country? How will they absorb our nuclear retaliatory strike? I guess Paul plans to get rid of all the US armed forces and the 2nd Amendment.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years? How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?


Bravo!!!
20 posted on 12/27/2011 3:32:22 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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