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Tuesday’s Republican debate will save Perry’s campaign, or end it
Yahoo! News' The Ticket ^ | October 10, 2011 | Holly Bailey

Posted on 10/10/2011 4:20:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican presidential candidates will gather for their second televised debate in New Hampshire on Tuesday night, when Bloomberg and the Washington Post host a forum centered entirely on the economy.

The back and forth on policy at the debate could be overshadowed by a bigger storyline: Can Rick Perry use the event to turn his turn his campaign around?

Perry, the governor of Texas, has lost his position as the front-runner in 2012 polls in recent weeks, amid criticism over his uneven debate performances. His position on Social Security, which he's described as a "Ponzi scheme" and a "monstrous lie" that ought to be administered by the 50 states instead of the federal government, will almost certainly come under scrutiny at the debate. His support for allowing illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition at Texas public universities is also likely to come up, as his rivals have cast the policy as fiscally unwise.

At the last three debates, Perry has struggled to defend his policies, and he has also had trouble delivering scripted attacks against Mitt Romney, his leading opponent for the Republican presidential nomination. Will Perry be better prepared Tuesday night?

The answer could determine the fate of his campaign for the White House. While Perry raised $17 million in his first weeks as a presidential candidate, money alone won't allow the Texas governor to overcome skepticism among Republican voters and party insiders about his ability to defeat President Barack Obama. Only a strong debate showing and a steady grasp of issues can do that.

If Perry can't regain momentum now, he will not be able to recover.....

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TOPICS: New Hampshire; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: heartless; immigration; instatetuition; perry; romney
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To: Grey Eagle

OOPS wrong spelling of grey @80

;o)


81 posted on 10/11/2011 6:39:14 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Can you explain why all the other candidates are protecting Romney and going after Perry. Perry actually has a pretty darned good record of governing in TX. Would you rather have Romney or Perry?

1) I don't see anyone protecting anyone.
2) yes, Perry's Texas record is why the race was his to lose. He lost it.
3) I wouldn't pick either Romney or Perry, and thank Goodness I won't have to.

82 posted on 10/11/2011 7:29:33 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is Bloomberg and the Washington Post sponsering the REPUBLICAN debates.

Are Republicans stupid?

Why would they participate in their enemy’s territories.

This is insane!


83 posted on 10/11/2011 7:43:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Reagan Man
Romney is polling 20%-25% and will probably pull in most of the moderate and liberal vote, along with a block of conservatives. That might get him as high as 35%, may be 40%.

I am not following you. Why does Romney's share of the vote go from 25% to 40% with the wave of a hand?

84 posted on 10/11/2011 8:31:15 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Huck
How'd you like 37% tax on everything. Sounds like fun.

How much do you pay now? There's the 7% state sales tax you mention. Then there's the 15.3% payroll tax (which Cain's plan eliminates). Are you paying less than 15% federal income tax? I'm not.

85 posted on 10/11/2011 8:37:47 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Huck
Meanwhile, most Chinese imports have no tariff on them at all. Free trade for China, the shaft for US merchants and producers. Makes sense

You're misstating Cain's plan. Businesses would pay his tax on imported inputs but not on domestically produced ones.

86 posted on 10/11/2011 8:40:33 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

The biggest factor I see is the high number of undecideds. Gallup has it at 20%, up from 10% a month ago. When the second tier of candidates start dropping out some support will go to the first tier of candidates. Romney will get his share. Imo, the gop is about 60% conservative, 40% moderate, liberal, libertarian, neocon. If it wasn’t we wouldn’t keep seeing support for non-conservatives like Romney, Paul and Giuliani. Lots of people looking for that ideal candidate who agrees with them.


87 posted on 10/11/2011 8:46:07 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Huck
"You can vote for new taxes if you want."

And you can hang in there with a 40,000 page tax code and bureaucracy out the ying-yang which, by the way, the congress changes every time a special interest group lines its corrupt pockets.

Wouldn't it be really awful if lobbyists and suits didn't have total control anymore???? Oh, the horror!

88 posted on 10/11/2011 8:56:13 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Right. Either we accept a new national sales tax, or we leave the current code. Those are the only options! /s


89 posted on 10/11/2011 9:03:14 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: FryingPan101
It’s like the word “heartless” is now the word “boo.”

The word "boo" isn't a personal insult. People being told that they are heartless if they don't want to financially support illegals is a personal insult that cuts to the heart of some.

I don't have a dog in this Perry hunt, but I can certainly understand that Perry did himself no good with his assessment.

90 posted on 10/11/2011 9:04:26 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Grey Eagle
"You comments go beyond just opinion and border on hate speech."

All speech is free, even when you don't like it. Members in a forum called FREE Republic shouldn't be tossing around terms like "hate speech", IMHO.

91 posted on 10/11/2011 9:10:53 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Huck
Never wrote that those were the ONLY options, but Cain is the only candidate offering up a plan.

What are YOUR candidate's proposals for ending the current 40,000 page tax code that allows the lobbies and special interests to influence everything in DC while the voices of The People can't be heard?

92 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:11 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“I don’t have a dog in this Perry hunt, but I can certainly understand that Perry did himself no good with his assessment.”

Well. I can buy that. Perry definitely uttered the wrong response. I didn’t like it either. I would bet very few Texans liked it. That being said, we know him. He’s been out there and vetted.....like Romney......like Newt. I don’t think the race to the primary is over no matter what the media projects. I don’t want it ended prematurely.


93 posted on 10/11/2011 9:40:19 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Cain is the only candidate offering up a plan.

LOL. Nevermind that it sucks. It's a plan. That's funny.

What are YOUR candidate's proposals

I don't have a candidate yet.

94 posted on 10/11/2011 11:16:55 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Huck
"Nevermind that it sucks. It's a plan."

Yes, it is a plan. If you have a suggestion for improving upon the proposal, toss it out there. Our current system needs to be scrapped.

95 posted on 10/11/2011 2:51:49 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Ricky! Ricky!
He's our man!
If he can't do it

...you're heartless bigots who hate Christians!"

Cheers!


96 posted on 10/15/2011 9:19:28 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: M. Thatcher; FryingPan101
Okay, since you didn't understand my response to your charge "this is a setup," let me put it in smaller words: Perry did it to himself.

Here, Thatch, let me see if I can help.

He didn't get the name Rick "Neutrino" Perry for nothing...

Cheers!


97 posted on 10/15/2011 9:22:31 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NautiNurse

He's trying to remember what letter comes after the k in "kat"...

Oh, and I almost forgot.

Speaking of cats:

Cheers!

98 posted on 10/15/2011 9:34:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“Neutrino”

I apologize, grey_whiskers. I have never heard that term before this moment. Guess I live in a world where words like macaca or heartless or neutrino.....or even “thatch” don’t hold much importance to me. I thank all of the candidates for offering us a choice. It’s what the word “choice” meant before it was hijacked. It’s what everyone in my world fought for and I’m grateful for them too. Thatch, huh? Oh well. Cheers to you too.


99 posted on 10/15/2011 9:35:34 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: FryingPan101
You said you're from Texas, right?

I guess you don't cotton much to news from Europe.

Cheers!

100 posted on 10/15/2011 9:39:23 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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