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Dem Poll: Obama Dragging Down His Own Party
National Journal ^ | September 22, 2011 | Josh Kraushaar and Jessica Taylor

Posted on 09/22/2011 3:49:44 PM PDT by Windflier

One of the Democratic party's leading pollsters released a survey of 60 Republican-held battleground districts today painting an ominous picture for Congressional Democrats in 2012. The poll shows Democratic House candidates faring worse than they did in the 2010 midterms, being dragged down by an unpopular president who would lose to both Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Mitt Romney.

Pollster Stan Greenberg released the poll with some sugary spin for Democrats, downplaying the results by arguing that the president's jobs plan will improve the party's fortunes.

"This is obviously not the best moment to judge the Democrats' eventual fortunes--with fewer voters identifying as Democrats, with Democrats themselves less enthusiastic about the president, and with his overall approval rating down 7 points and losing independents in these districts," Greenberg wrote in his memo. "We do not yet know the public's reaction to the president's latest initiatives, but there is reason to believe they can help him and the Democrats here."

But the numbers - at least right now -- are troubling for Democrats, and echoed some of the takeaways from the GOP special election upset in New York City last week. Instead of an overall anti-incumbent sentiment impacting members of both parties, voters are taking more of their anger out on Democrats. When voters were asked whether they're supporting the Republican incumbent or a Democratic candidate, 50 percent preferred the Republican and just 41 percent backed the Democrat.

Voters in these districts said they were more supportive of Republicans than they were during the 2010 midterms, when 48 percent said they backed the Republican candidate and 42 percent said they backed the Democrat. (Republicans won 55 percent of the overall vote in these 60 battleground districts, while Democrats took 43 percent.) In 2010, Republicans netted 63 House seats - their best showing since 1948.


TOPICS: Polls
KEYWORDS: 2012; obama; polls; stanleygreenberg
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Hope & Change, baby...
1 posted on 09/22/2011 3:49:47 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: Windflier
I just googled Jimmy Carter's 1976 campaign slogan and found this:

"A Leader, For a Change"

No kidding.

2 posted on 09/22/2011 3:54:06 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Windflier
"We do not yet know the public's reaction to the president's latest initiatives, but there is reason to believe they can help him and the Democrats here."

Greenberg, you are delusional. Seek some professional help.
3 posted on 09/22/2011 3:54:20 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Windflier

GOOD! With what is happening to my 401k, I could use some good news! Hope he drags them right into the damn gutter where they belong!


4 posted on 09/22/2011 3:54:39 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Windflier

I was called nuts on here a week or so ago for saying some blue states that have been Democratic since 1992 might be in play this time.

but a generic congressional ballot of 50-41 means that Republicans are getting stronger support in what has recently been uncharted electoral territory.


5 posted on 09/22/2011 3:55:42 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Windflier

Can’t be true. I just saw another poll telling us that Americans trust Democrats more than Republicans on the economy.


6 posted on 09/22/2011 4:00:55 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Signalman

It will be interesting to see how many Dem candidates and incumbents want Obama to campaign for/with them. That will be the most revealing poll of all.


7 posted on 09/22/2011 4:02:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Windflier

I think Obama might be more of a whirlpool. From wiki:

Charybdis or Kharybdis was once a beautiful naiad and the daughter of Poseidon and Gaia. She takes form as a huge bladder of a creature whose face was all mouth and whose arms and legs were flippers and who swallows huge amounts of water three times a day before belching them back out again, creating whirlpools. In some variations of the tale, Charybdis is just a large whirlpool rather than a sea monster. Charybdis was very loyal to her father in his endless feud with Zeus; it was she who rode the hungry tides after Poseidon had stirred up a storm, and led them onto the beaches, gobbling up whole villages, submerging fields, drowning forests, claiming them for the sea. She won so much land for her father’s kingdom that Zeus became enraged and changed her into a monster.

The myth has Charybdis lying on one side of a narrow channel of water. On the other side of the strait was Scylla, another sea-monster. The two sides of the strait are within an arrow’s range of each other, so close that sailors attempting to avoid Charybdis will pass too close to Scylla and vice versa. The idiom ‘between Scylla and Charybdis’ has therefore come to mean being between two dangers, choosing either of which will bring harm.

Traditionally, the location of Charybdis has been associated with the Strait of Messina off the coast of Sicily and opposite the rock on the Italian mainland identified with Scylla.[1] The vortex there is caused by the meeting of currents but is seldom dangerous.


8 posted on 09/22/2011 4:03:30 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Windflier

Too fu*kin bad.

The Party of RATs deserve to be eating out of dumpsters at Gitmo as far as I’m concerned. That also goes for the Crackheads, Welfare Queens and other Parasites that support them.


9 posted on 09/22/2011 4:05:04 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Windflier
And the dow, the economy and the free market continue to tank under this Marxist Administration.
10 posted on 09/22/2011 4:17:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Shades of The Caine Mutiny ....who ate the peas?


11 posted on 09/22/2011 4:18:21 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: Windflier

Psssst, he don’t give a rats a&& about anyone but himself you blind bass turds....he got his millions,and you helped him you stupid fools.....


12 posted on 09/22/2011 4:19:19 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Windflier

Press that pantsuit Hillary – you’re up!


13 posted on 09/22/2011 4:21:11 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Windflier
Instead of an overall anti-incumbent sentiment impacting members of both parties, voters are taking more of their anger out on Democrats. When voters were asked whether they're supporting the Republican incumbent or a Democratic candidate, 50 percent preferred the Republican and just 41 percent backed the Democrat.


14 posted on 09/22/2011 4:26:50 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: sodpoodle

Don’t you mean strawberries (sound of metallic balls rolling together)....


15 posted on 09/22/2011 4:28:28 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: Windflier

Don’t laugh, but I think we’re about to see the resurrection of the Clinton political machine. A few days ago, there were rumblings about a Democratic primary opponent for Obama and now Greenberg conveniently releases a poll, showing political doom for the Dims with The Zero at the top of the ticket.

Obviously, Obama took out Hillary in 2008, but it was a vastly different political landscape back then. Bill Clinton is still mad about Zero using the race card against him and would like a chance to settle the score. I think it’s still a long shot for Hillary to run, but don’t rule out the possibility of Bill “drafting” someone else, like Andrew Cuomo.


16 posted on 09/22/2011 4:35:32 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

No - I figured everyone would get the peas as substitutes.

sorry if it was obtuse;)


17 posted on 09/22/2011 4:35:41 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair: Man's surrender. Laughter: God's redemption.)
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To: Windflier

The Beatles “Carry That Weight” comes to mind...heh, heh, heh.


18 posted on 09/22/2011 4:41:21 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: Windflier

“Injustice” by J. Christian Adams...exposes DOJ...
http://electionlawcenter.com/


19 posted on 09/22/2011 4:47:50 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Windflier

Enter stage left - Hillary.


20 posted on 09/22/2011 4:57:16 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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