Posted on 02/04/2010 2:25:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
I wouldn’t call it “madness” ... but I think, at this point, it is doing more harm than good — i.e. it swings more voters against us than for us. Until we have more information (which we should still pursue), I think it’d be beneficial to the electoral chances in November to let the issue rest.
I am quite sure many here will disagree.
SnakeDoc
It’s sickening watching Ted suck up to liberals hoping to be accepted into their clique.
53% of Democrats believe Bush was involved in a conspiracy on 911; Homeland Security is a front for eventual martial law; 911 was an inside job, and the towers fell due to planted explosives. Wqaiting for that poll to be published.
I am a birther.
I think the best evidence that we are succeeding to undermine the Kenyan is the level of vitriol we generate.
The Kenyan’s vital records are sealed. Why? What is he hiding? Why won’t he just release his birth certificate to put the doubts to rest?
Because he doesn’t have a birth certificate.
He’s just echoing Glenn Beck.
Look. Fox News is not on the Birther Bandwagon.
I believe it will be some English or Canadian newspaper that finally breaks the truth of Obama’s illegitimate presidency.
Certainly not Fox or any other American media outlet.
Hey Billy...
Which of the following two selections is more indicative of insanity or madness: 1) asking for proof of eligibility to hold the presidency, as required by the Constitution, or 2) spending over a million dollars in legal fees rather than simply producing the document in question and putting the issue to rest? Idiot.
You don't go quite far enough. What "information" would suffice? Unless someone can prove that Obama's mother was not American born (nobody has argued that), the case is closed: Obama is a ntural born citizen and legally qualified to be president. Whoever thought up this "birther" nonsense?
He’s got his cocktail parties to go to.
I think we’re pretty much on the same page. If you can get hard evidence that the certificate is a forgery or something, the issue is worth revisiting. But, at this point, you need documentary proof ... not just supposition and conjecture.
Clearly, the absence of proof isn’t going to suffice, as far as the public is concerned, as proof of absence. I understand that believers in this issue want answers ... but it would be better tactically to quietly pursue answers rather than loudly doing so. Come back loudly when you have answers.
SnakeDoc
Hey Bill - let me rephrase the question: is he a NATURAL BORN citizen, as required by the Constitution?
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.
Mind you, I think he is probably hiding something (perhaps an illegitimate birth) but I see no reason to believe that he lied about the identity of his mother.
So his alleged father’s not being an American citizen isn’t a stumbling block for you?
I think the nation will always be in the same hole it’s in - where we go from electing Republicans who screw us to Democrats who screw us - unless and until we get a handle on government corruption. And this is one steaming pile of government corruption. See http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/ and follow the link at the end to see how it all applies to Obama’s eligibility issue.
I think most people reject Al Capone running every facet of our federal, state, and local government. And that’s where this train wreck is headed if we don’t do something drastic to stop it now.
Maybe the Israelis, although I honestly wonder if they have the good on Obama and that’s why he did a 180 turn in the past week or so, to side with Israel over the Islamofacsicts.
Well, Gee!...Since it's so settled then why not just release the long form birth certificate?
Since it's so settled, why is Obama using DOJ attorneys and tying up the time of federal judges and federal courts in an attempt to prevent the release of his long form birth certificate?
If he is using federal courts, federal judges, and DOJ attorneys and citizen tax dollars just to make the birthers look loony, I don't think the American people will be amused with this waste of U.S. resources and money.
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