Posted on 06/09/2009 7:48:31 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin
Vanity (?) This evening my wife answered the phone and told me it was the Republican Committee - for me. When i picked up I stated that I was not given any money because I thougth McCain was a travesty and that the way the Committee has been treating [Governor] Palin was an abomination.
The nice, polite fellow who called was obviously taken aback and responded with words to the effect of "OK, well thank you for your time".
I was a bit surprised that he did not have a response to my disgust with the party. I only wish I had thought to tell him I will contribute again when the party returns to conservative, Reagan-like principles.
I hope they get the message.
RE:”Today I got the RNC 2009 census survey. Oh please, yet another ploy to get money. I knew it would arrive, as I was warned by a Freeper vanity last week.
I have printed out a page of Monopoly money and at the bottom of the page wrote “Here’s the deal, you give me real conservative candidates to vote for, and then I’ll send you real money.”
Postage paid envelope provided by the RNC”
Brilliant! I am going to steal your idea. It seems I get ‘important’ mail every day. I had been tossing it. Now i will send back responses courtesy of TCP!
thanks
It most likely was a paid telemarketer who has no connection whatsoever to the RNC.
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Have to disagree with you on this. It’s more likely a phone bank volunteer.
Having worked once upon a time for a fund raising telemarketing firm, it goes something like this.
The callers are briefly trained on a script that proceeds step by step on a response tree.
1. Hello-intro purpose of call
2. First refusal, something on the lines of “I’m not interested” proceed to scriped response.
3. If interested caller reads script that says somehing like, “Great, Can I put you down for $100? If yes script says to ask for credit card number, if no then verify address for pledge.
4. If yes to donate but no to #100 then ask 50, 25 (example)
5. Polite refusal or if issue is raised, most well planned scripts have sccripted dialogues in effort to bring the vic, err, donor back to the fold.
The caller gets paid a small hourly cash rate, say $10/hr. Evening shifts run 3 or 4 hours. But there are tiered cash bonuses that can pay far more; most total dollars pledged; most credit card donations which are processed immediately; highest single donation; most calls; and a few other variants. High Refusal to donation ratios mean you don’t work there anymore.
Point being that you are working for cash in hand at the end of the night. It was easy for me to walk out with $200, $300, or more at the end of the 3 hour night because I did my homework on the potential issues and concerns. And this was in the early 1990’s before google. My best sale was $1000 on a cc. putting $200 in my pocket for that one call. And the call mgr had noobs monitor my asks.
Phone back callers are drones usually ill-informed, chatty without purpose and in the end more expensive than a paid fund raising marketing effort.
And yes, if my caller id doesnt’ catch’em, I politely refuse, ask to be taken off their calling and hang up at the end of the sentence. That counts as a refusal, a dead lead. A hangup, your card goes back into the stack if the caller is timid or afraid of losing the job. You then get called again
I think you are correct. He probably was a committed volunteer.
I intend to continue to politely tell the callers that I will not contribute until I can verbalize what the Republican party stands for.
Many of us like Palin because we know what she stands for. She does not seem to be guided by opinion polls. Hopefully she, or someone like her will be the Republican nominee in 2012. If not, we will be stuck with even more “change”
Yeah, I stole the idea from another Freeper last week!
I put the 6 highest denomination Monopoly bills on the scanner long way up and 2 rows of 3, and they printed out great as the top of the page of paper, lots of eye catching color, and there was room for a snotty note at the bottom of the page.
Freep away! The RNC may never wake up but we can try.
Next I start using the other pre-paid envelopes I’ve saved to write “Sarah,Sarah,Sarah” in them and send them to the RNC.
1800-DEM-LITE
You live in a free country where anything is possible. Anything! You are on this website because you are a free thinking American. Why would you allow something to “fix” your income? I don’t care if you are blowing through a straw to make your wheelchare move. The fact you are here on Free Republic says something about your American spirit and true character and I cannot believe that you allowed any situation to fix your income.
get old and sick.... and then talk to me.
I have taken care of my future needs, it combines job benefits with my dwindling retirement benefits...
plenty to live on. I can buy extras....toys if you will.
I don’t see any politicians I would wish to give to with the exception of Palin at this time. When things start to gel in 4 years, I will seriously consider giving directly to her, or through the NRA.
I have 3 herniated discs in my neck and arthritis from head to toe. My favorite cartoon is where the frog is choking the stork that tried to swallow him.
Your ideas will be put to good use!
thanks
“I wonder who they hire to do those calls.”
ACORN?
Nothing would surprise me these days.
I’ve heard some people use felons in prison
A couple of years ago there was a great outrage about the illegal alien amnesty, when I got my appeal from the RNC, I wrote “zero” for the donation and I wrote a brief message, telling them why.
I know that many people were outraged and voiced their anger to the RNC but the unprincipled rinos still don’t get it. They think they rule the party and it is all about them.
By the way who IS the RNC? Since you have worked inside politics zerosix, can you tell me who exactly is in charge of the party and how does this work?
Each state elect officers to represent them in the Party (both dims and pubbies), of course the larger the footprint ($$$$) from one state, the seemingly more clout they get.
In some states the "mods" are the ones elected (KS had two of the most liberal male and female reps as our representatives -- we're glad to have ousted them.)
Among the rest of the representatives, you also have the nationally elected officials from that state (that would be your representatives AND senators and depending upon how conservative or liberal they are --- well you get the picture.)
That is why it took so many ballots to get to Michael Steele.
I'd not be feeling so cocky, were I him, as he won based upon so many others in the mix thereby pulling support for the REAL conservative in the pack -- Ken Blackwell, from Ohio, in my opinion.
Another popular candidate was the former chief of Huckabee (probably a good guy but not nearly so conservative as Blackwell) and he drew quite a bit of support, though he was NOT a national name and I'm sure the RINOs demanded that -- ala Michael Steele (thanks in the most part for FOX News.)
zerosix, This undermining of the party has a lot to do with what I said in a previous post about politicians being masters of deception. For years now we have been hearing politicians refering to themselves as conservatives. They did the research and realized that they needed the conservative voters to win the elections so they all started calling themselves conservatives, and we believed them for the most part.
Since most people are not natural born liars, it is difficult for us to believe that someone could lie to our faces. But that is exactly what the rinos did - they lied to our faces when they called themselves conservative. They used the magic word “conservative” to get in under the radar and they went on to make a mess of the party. It has taken years for us to figure out what was really going on and we are now in the process of sorting out who is for real and who is not.
This is not that different from what happened in the Democrat party. We saw Obama and Hillary acting like they were just regular moderate Democrats when we know that they are both far left. The Democrat voters bought the charade and voted for them. The Democrat voters were deceived and we were as well.
I've had any number of people coaxing, prodding and begging me to run for any political office, especially on a national basis.
I've declined on the "true" basis, that I could never get elected as I do speak up for truth and conservative values and really do live my life accordingly, but no one really wants someone who is not willing to lie to their faces about all sorts of things that they will never, ever do once in D.C. and promise them something for nothing (well it's nothing to them but it's robbing someone else to "give" it to the others.)
Plus, I will never put my family through the meat grinder that is politics, especially today.
I care not one whit what anyone says about me, either to my face or behind my back but respect the privacy of my family who are NOT running. End of story.
Please refer this messge to Mr. Steele,
Dear Mr. Steele,
I appreciate your efforts to lead the Republican Party and the need for money. I am not sure the Republican party is for me. I feel like Ronald Reagan, who said he did not leave the the Democrats, they left him.
Mr. McCain seems like a nice guy and would be an excellent addition to a cabinet. However, he was a disaster as a candidate, because it was not clear what, if anything, he actually stood for.
That is also the problem with the Party.
It is no longer clear what the republicans stand for on important issues. When you have decided if you will be the party of smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense, rational foreign policy, anti-abortion (or at the very least treating it as a question for the states), respect for the rights of individuals, and respect for the law (I am thinking of the Bush / McCain failure to enforce the existing immigration laws) I will consider re-joining and donating. Being anti-Obama is not enough.
Furthermore, the failure to treat Governor Palin as a respected leader of the party is abominable. But for Palin, the democrats would have taken 75% of the vote in the last election. The philosophical differences betwenn McCain and bama were not clear and were not properly publicised. Palin brought pricipled conservatism, vitality and excitment to the ticket. She should be the Party's 2012 frontrunner at this time, and the Party should vigorously defend her, at least out of a sence of gratitude. With out her, the Republicans would have even more embarrased.
If you and the rest of the leadership cannot understand why Palin is so popular with "the base," you should go get a real job.
Respectfully yours,
[name withheld to protect the privacy of the guilty]
Very clear response. Thank you for sharing.
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