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1 posted on 12/06/2008 10:06:49 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

So CT Whitman says that the GOP has been held hostage to social conservatives and describes the selection of Sarah Palin as a ‘cynical sop to social fundamentalists,’ reinforcing the impression that they control the party, with the party’s consent. Folks, these are fighting words. the rebuilding of the GOP started with the Chambliss landslide victory, continued tonight with 2 upset results in Louisiana and will take on a new dimension if a conservative person is chosen as the new RNC (Republican National Committee). And Arnold S opposes Proposition 8; at least the moderates have declared their intentions.


2 posted on 12/06/2008 10:30:31 PM PST by techno
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Ahnold is not a “moderate Republican” - he is a borderline liberal dim. Spending has gone up 39% since he has been gov. The state has not got 39% better, it’s gotten worse by at least that percentage. Makes me wish I had voted No on the Recall and for McClintock in part B of that ballot.


3 posted on 12/06/2008 10:31:07 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: SmithL

This is only part of the full reason why I seriously don’t see the conservatives successfully rebounding until, at least, sixty years later, if ever! Unless there really are a majority of voters more than willing to vote for conservatives, at every political level, all over the U.S. for the long-term and all of the motives to successfully make such a move actually happen are fully implemented, then U.S. conservatism will always remain as a political minority throughout most of the U.S. This assiduous finger pointing and fighting among RINO’s and conservatives all over the country only assures that leftists dominate U.S. politics for the long-term! Leftists have dominated Massachusetts politics for more than five decades, and all non-leftists in Massachusetts remain clueless about what to do to seriously and successfully change the one-sided leftist political landscape of Massachusetts.


4 posted on 12/06/2008 10:35:32 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: SmithL

BTW, does anyone have the FULL list of who is competing to become the leader of the RNC? I know about five of them, and there are, at least, ten competing for this position.


6 posted on 12/06/2008 10:40:54 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: SmithL

“Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Rep. Peter King of New York”

They should join the democraps, socialist, or communist party!


7 posted on 12/06/2008 10:44:54 PM PST by dalereed
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>> Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Rep. Peter King of New York - all moderate Republicans - each won re-election in a tough year. Each has said the party needed to broaden its base. All three are under attack for saying so. <<

Rep. Connie Morella of Louisiana, Rep. Billy Tauzin of Louisiana, Rep. Greg Ganske, Rep. Joe Schwarz, Gov.Craig Benson all moderate Republicans - each defeated by Democrats in an election year favorable to Republicans. Each has said the party needed to "reach out" to Democrats more. All five defeated after failing to distinguish themselves from their Democrat rival.

9 posted on 12/06/2008 11:13:28 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SmithL

Broadening the base does not mean thinning one’s principles. A person who believes in expanding such things as gay rights and expanding or promoting abortions should not be welcome in the Republican party period. Also big spending amnesty Republicans should also find their way to the door. What we need to do is build a coalition of the majorities who clearly opposed things like gay marriage. We’d win California if we could garner as many votes as Prop 8 got. The problem is that the GOP seems to not understand how to speak strongly on the issue.


13 posted on 12/06/2008 11:35:27 PM PST by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: SmithL

The Arnold is not now nor has he ever been a Republican. What people call themselves is meaningless. It is what they do that matters.


17 posted on 12/07/2008 3:11:23 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: SmithL
Christie Whitman, the former head of the Environmental Protection Agency under President Bush, co-wrote a Washington Post opinion piece that said the party has been held hostage to social conservatives. She described Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's selection as Arizona Sen. John McCain's vice presidential candidate as a "cynical sop to social fundamentalists, reinforcing the impression that they control the party, with the party's consent."

Whitman is an embarrassment to the GOP and needs to change her affiliation to RAT elite.

18 posted on 12/07/2008 4:55:16 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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[Republican moderates - including Schwarzenegger - against social conservatives.]

So true, and the liberals have taken the power positions in the GOP and RNC and try to relegate the position of conservative Christians to that of the base of the left wing marxist democrats which in turn causes the wiser conservatives to not vote for politicians who are liberal left minded. The RNC and GOP are populated with the liberal left radicals that destroyed the democrat party and they are not going to give up their positions of power for anybody as liberals love power and money and are worthless for the majority of Americans, like Arnold and so many others.
We need to have conservative political candidates and the pubs refuse to support them. It would be best if true conservatives supported true conservatives and just let the rino GOP die as it deserves.
I will not waste my precious blood won conservative vote on the rino politicians the rino GOP runs anymore. If they want to be friends of the left, so be it.


19 posted on 12/07/2008 4:59:20 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives, please abandon the G.O.P., start a new conservative only party.)
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“It’s a position that’s pitting some Republican moderates - including Schwarzenegger”

The man is NOT a moderate Republican or anything else, he may be even to the left of the man that he replaced. He is as liberal as they come on every important issue that has come up since he has been in office.


23 posted on 12/07/2008 8:35:39 AM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: SmithL

Whitman can take ‘It’s My Party Too’ and stick it.

The New Majority did more to destroy than advance a conservative agenda since it’s inception in the late 90’s.

The RMSP is a front for moderates (and Mavericks) masquerading as Pubbies. aRnold is a moderate wuss.

Blame the backbone of the nation for the brain going soft.
Geeesh.

Good riddance to all of them.


25 posted on 12/07/2008 10:49:47 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: SmithL; fieldmarshaldj; Tennessee Nana; BillyBoy

LMAO! Lamar lost at least one vote by being a RINO. Collins and King at least have an excuse of being from less than GOP areas. TN increased it’s Republican vote share! And in 2006 their best candidate couldn’t beat a weak Lamar clone under the most favorable conditions.

More RINOs=more losing.


26 posted on 12/07/2008 10:56:48 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: SmithL

These are the people who do not fight on all fronts in conservatism. To them, conservatism is lower taxes, smaller government, and individual liberty. The last of these trumps any concerns which social conservatives have about abortion, gay “marriage”, and so on. They do not fight on the cultural front. I think this split has been going on since Regan left office, and over the past twenty years, we have seen the slow and haphazard retreat of the social conservative movement. Now, the economy pushed the election to the Democrats, and they set the agenda; those politicians in the Republican camp are willing to surrender on the social issues. Where does that leave us as social conservatives?


27 posted on 12/07/2008 11:04:25 AM PST by HondaCRF450
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Did you read the comments on the article? "Gay Marriage is a LOSING ISSUE!"- It lost everywhere it has been put to a vote. "I'm glad to see Schwarzenegger stand up to the nazi bigots."- I was unaware black people could be Nazis.
29 posted on 12/07/2008 10:57:08 PM PST by dbz77
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