Posted on 11/08/2006 10:53:50 PM PST by Natural Law
The GOP leadership sold its soul and sold out its core constituency for the figurative 40 pieces of silver. Whats more, their apologists on this forum expect that all Conservatives should have followed lock-step behind them. Conservatism is an ideology, not a party. If the GOP wants the money, votes, and support of conservatives it must be conservative. We are not here to represent the party, the party is here to represent us. As Reagan once said of the Democratic Party; "it left me, I didn't leave it". Let's see if it can find its way home.
LOL! Some of them are just too damn easy. LOL
Even our Socialists were honest. LOL Gotta laugh, cuz otherwise my blood pressure starts to go pop.
LOL! 3 "wee" months and a bit.
By the standard I measure them against, Ronald Reagan, they are truly lacking. Nixon had a hostile House and Senate, Bush had republican House and Senate for the last 6 years and didn't get it done. The public just didn't see any point of giving him another two, kind of like hitting the reset button.
For most of the first 2 years the Senate was Democrat. For the next 2 years there was a 1 Senator majority, so even 1 RINO could stop anything! There has only been a more than 1 seat majority for 20 months, and even then you need 60 votes to pass partisan measures in the Senate!
We haven;t had a majority control as great as we just lost since Eisenhower's 1st 2 years. We haven't had the 60 vote margin since the 1920's -- that's 80 YEARS !! I don't know about you, but I don't expect to be too politically active when I'm 145 years old!!!!
"You wouldn't know the truth, if it clamped its jaws on your nose and nothing and nobody could remove it, for the rest of your life!
ROTFLOL...so someone who is enamored of blue skinned people, a crazy fringe party, that has been hemorrhaging members for more than a decade, and is reveling in a DEM takeover of both Houses, is telling ME that I am a Kool-Aide drinker? Damn, I can't remember WHEN I haves seen such gall and stupidity as expressed in your replies!"
As always, when you Bushbots don't like the message, you start calling the messenger names.
As a TRUE conservative, I was voting for Republicans probably before you were born, jerk.
Nice try. You guys put us where we are today. Deal with it.
Now that you guys have gotten what you wanted all along--Speaker Pelosi (D-Libertarianville) and Senate President Harry Reid (D-Honest Mistake Reporting $1 million Land), don't ya think it's time you came up with some new cliches? See if your pal Murtha can appropriate some bucks to invest in an Ayn Rand statue in Times Square while yer at it, since the Dems owe so much to her acolytes.
HELLO? ZARF?
The parties own no one's votes. The party left some people & I see good odds of the party looking to make up those lost votes by catering to those more to the left. Everyone wants to believe their opinion is widely held, because it's just so... correct. The GOP has a lot of RINOs, because of the thinking of the electorate in those places. The GOP didn't have the numbers to overcome the filibuster, so they were forced to compromise, take some bad to get some good.
If understanding the full dynamics we're dealing with makes me a Kool-Aid drinker, my flavor of choice is black cherry, thankyouverymuch.
Natural Law... You thnk your ideas have universal appeal. How many seats has your party won?
All that so-called "conservatives" can actually do is lose elections, not win them.
Isn't funny that the ONE thing that these so-called conservatives do is claim responsibility for lost elections?
I'd think twice before bragging about being one of these "conservatives" if my legacy consisted of the Clinton Presidency, and this year's losses.
Which are their two biggest claims to fame.
Ronald Reagan
I've gotten more pi$$ed-off responses to my description of electing Democrats as treason today.
The results must be sinking in. Somewhere, some of them are saying, "Oh, dear God, what have we done?"
I take it you don't think Iraq was the major chord in the chorus of why the GOP got wacked, with too many instances of personal corruption a minor chord. Would that be a correct surmise?
I think too many people on the left and right believe that the Republican party does not represent them. It is said that the political arena is made up of 30% die hard conservatives, 30% die hard liberals and 40% in the middle. The personal corruption certainly didn't help, but the GOP leadership tried to acquire that 40% in the middle with the presumption that the 30% die hard conservatives would back them no matter what. What they just found out was that they may have gotten that 40% in the middle, but the lost the other 60%.
I don't think the data will support that the GOP lost due to a loss of conservative base support. It lost mostly because of a loss of voters in the middle. That is what the exit polls show. It was a collapse in the votes of non affiliated voters in most places. I might add that a fair number of true blue "conservatives" were blasted away, including, inter alia, Graf, Pombo, Hart, Ryun, Hostettler, Sodrel, etc.
Not to mention of course, the total collapse of Santorum.
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