GOP U.S. Senate candidate addresses education with black leaders

www.illinoisleader.com ^ | 2-7-04 | Fran Eaton

[NormalGuy]

U.S. Senate candidate Jack Ryan spoke with black community leaders at the Chicago Defender on Friday.

"Our failing schools is the most important current civil rights issue," Ryan said. ...(see full article www.illinoisleader.com)...

He read a portion of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren's 1954 opinion in Brown:
In these days, it is doubtful that any child may reasonably be expected to succeed in life if he is denied the opportunity of an education. Such an opportunity, where the state has undertaken to provide it, is a right which must be made available to all on equal terms....

"Why not allow the money to follow the children, and give parents the choice of schools for their children?" he said to the group. His question was met with a suggestion that if all children were not allowed the privilege of educational choice, perhaps the system should remain as it is.

"We can't fall to paralysis by analysis," Frank Penn said. "We may not be able to help all of them, but that should stop us from helping some. The free market system would create better schools if we just start somewhere." ...

[NormalGuy]

DMZ Frank is getting high profile in his retirement. Will he come out of retirement?

[NormalGuy]

fyi

[NormalGuy]

How many Blacks and Hispanics will actually vote for Jack Ryan March 16 (and in Nov as Jack will probably win)? The answer will determine the future of efforts for pragmatic Republicans to be inclusive.

Granted. It is a double standard. Oberweiss can lose the primary badly and a viable tactic will still be "blame the immigrants" But if Jack Ryan wins the state but doesn't expand the minority vote, that tactic will be written off.

Jack Ryan has major support from suburban Blacks and Hispanics. But their vote is mixed in with the white suburban vote and counted as "white" vote.

[NormalGuy]

My guy Steve has been unable to raise the money. I wish money was not so important. Is that wishful thinking?

Analytically, what are the factors that make up for a winner or loser?
How important is inclusiveness and reaching out?
How much difference does any issue make?
How much difference does charisma and personality make?
How much difference does money make?
How much difference do organizations like Schaumburg for Jack and Palatine/Maine for Steve make?
What else counts?

[JohnnyZ]

How much difference does charisma and personality make?

A lot, especially hair. Seriesly. Especially for the mushy middle, they'll vote for the candidate they're more comfortable with, who has the most engaging (or straightforward, or whatever trait they find attractive) personality.

[JohnnyZ]

Jack Ryan - winning support from black voters with ideas - ping

[Pubbie]

*Ping*!

[GiveEmDubya]

Won't his last name be a liability in that race?

I mean, sure, he looks like the only candidate who can win the nomination, but Ryan isn't a popular name in Illinois these days.

[Clintonfatigued]

This is great! Jack Ryan has again proven himself to be a thoughtful community leader who combines conservatism with social concience. Combine that with his charisma and self-made wealth, and he's a formidable contender. There is a touch of irony here: he meets with strong 'Rat voters to discuss ideas without any thought of political gain, and he gains politically from it.

[Kuksool]

I'm glad Jack Ryan is willing to frankly discuss the issues with people who probably won't vote for him in November. In order to build up the GOP black vote, Republicans must discuss issues with the black community. Anyway, Jack Ryan shouldn't stop there. He should try to make an appearance at Salem Baptist Church, mega-church in the south side of Chicago. The pastor of the church, Rev. James Meeks, is a respected communnity leader in Chicago.

[Kuksool]

If Oberweis gets the GOP nomination, I'll wager that Jesse Jackson and his son will blast Jim Oberweis about the lack of diversity in Oberweis Diary chain stores.

[Pubbie]

I'm not very optimistic about reaching out to poor inner city blacks.

It would be better if Ryan reached out to Middle Class blacks living in the suburbs.

[Kuksool]

Rev. James Meeks is popular with blacks living in the suburbs as well. The local TV media here broadcasts the sermons of Salem Baptist.

[Clintonfatigued]

LOL--you could be right. But I don't rule out an Oberweis victory. Illinois has a history of electing pro-abort RINO's to statewide office. Do you remember former Senator Charles Percy?

[Kuksool]

Charles Percey is a liberal Republican who found a way to lose re-election in the 1984 Reagan Landslide. Paul Simon was able to cut into Percy's Downstate support.

[Impy]

Why was Alan Dixon great?

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I'm not very optimistic about reaching out to poor inner city blacks.

It would be better if Ryan reached out to Middle Class blacks living in the suburbs."

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I disagree. On issues such as school vouchers, gay marriage and faith-based initiatives, inner-city blacks are more likely than suburban blacks to support the GOP position (suburban blacks, like suburban whites, already have access to quality schools for their children, and may like the present system just fine). Besides, we do not need to obtain a majority of the black vote in Illinois---increasing our share from 10% to 20% would make it nearly impossible for any RAT candidate to defeat Jack Ryan. And as I've written previously, if Republicans can get 30% of the black vote in the South, it would prett much put the RAT Party out of business down there and make even black-majority districts winnable for black Republicans.

[chicagolady]

Just passing some info along that I just received from a friend who is very politically connected.
I have not idea if it is true BUT it is good stuff to research.
I will let you know what I find. ..................................................................................................................

Ryan is hooked up to the elitists and I believe he is being groomed by the banker community and the Clintons along with John Corizine, Ryan's old partner from the banking business, a former Chicagoan who spent 40 million to buy the senatorial seat in New Jersey and Rahm Emanual- Clintons former chief of staff from Highland Pk. now holding Blagoevichs seat over in my old 5th ward.

[chicagolady]

Jon Corzine and Jack Ryan Business partners at Goldman and Sachs

Read on....................

Goldman Sachs
Goldman Sachs is one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks. Like others in the securities industry, it advises and invests in nearly every industry affected by federal legislation. The firm closely monitors issues including economic policy, trade and nearly all legislation that governs the financial sector. It has been a major proponent of privatizing Social Security as well as legislation that would essentially deregulate the investment banking/securities industry. In August 2002, following months of corporate scandals, congressional investigators launched a probe into whether stock analysts at Goldman Sachs issued biased investment advice in order to protect corporate clients. The firm tends to give most of its money to Democrats—a fact that might not be so surprising, considering its former chief executive is Sen. Jon Corzine (D-N.J.).