What is Rush trying to Do to Us?

Rush Limbaugh Show

[Cinnamon Girl]

Why is Rush selling Arnold down the river? Okay, so we don't know if Schwarzenegger can run a state economy, but we sure know that Joe Davis can't. No, Arnold is not a social conservative, but the man knows basic economics and has proven he knows how to make money. We can all get sweaty about Arnold's passion for socialist programs for children and whatever all else, but Arnold said he recognizes the need for emergency action to stop the rush of businesses out of this state. It's an immediate problem. And Arnold is a Republican because he knows basic facts like that taxing the junk out of people doesn't help the economy. He already said he'd take back the car registration tax hike that Davis illegally put into action.

Democrats will vote for Arnold. Many of them have already excitedly said so. And who else have we got? What are we supposed to do? Wait for another Reagan to step forward? Not likely.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Even Michael Medved, who has always spoken against an Arnold candidacy, has become a realist this week and said that surely Arnold would be better than Governor Gumby.

[RIGHT IN SEATTLE]

Rush lost all his golf balls years ago.

[sinkspur]

Rush apparently isn't one of Arnold's confidants. Rush tends to push people who call his show, and kiss his feet.

Arnold's never sucked up to Rush, so, Rush disses him.

[My2Cents]

I prefer Ann Coulter's take on the "Governator." She reportedly said that considering the state of mind and soul in California, Arnold's about as good as one should expect for a leading Republican contender, and that California is basically ungovernable, so what matter does it make who's governor? She didn't endorse Arnold, but implied that he's not Gray Davis, so he's an improvement.

[PhiKapMom]

Very well stated! Don't listen to Rush on my radio here at the house or on my car radio anymore. Had it with him and the rest of the "pure" conservative crowd!

Maybe some folks still like him, but this Bush Republican takes a pass!

[My2Cents]

Maybe Arnold refused to play a round of golf with Rush. That's probably what really ticked him off.

[PhiKapMom]

Rush doesn't like President Bush very well either so I would say that Arnold is in great company!

[My2Cents]

What are we supposed to do? Wait for another Reagan to step forward? Not likely.

Unfortunately, you're right. Reagan was a God-send, literally. While we await another divine intervention, I'm afraid we're on our own, and we better make do with what we have.

[PhiKapMom]

Hannity jumped on the Arnold bandwagon right away because Arnold is someone that can win and become a Republican Governor in CA. That is huge for the 2004 election!

Some Republicans forget that winning is the name of the game in politics. A "true" conservative as I keep seeing posted is NOT going to win in California!

[My2Cents]

The purists have little political sense. If they threw out everyone they label "RINO" (which is anyone whom they disagree with), the Republican Party would be down to 15% of the electorate, and would be well on its way to following the Whigs onto the ash heap of history. BTW, I actually got a "RINO-hunter" here on FR last week to admit he isn't even a Republican!

I've taken to telling the purists that they needed to read Ann Coulter's book and wake up to who the real enemies are.

[Admin Moderator]

We didn't mean to single your thread out. Sorry if you got that impression. We just can't catch all vanities.

[Cinnamon Girl]

So is this a new policy, that all vanities are supposed to be in General Interest will virtually no one will see them? I don't mean that sarcastically.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

Rush is disappointed with the assertiveness of Republican leaders in Congress overall. I think Arnold is like a poster boy to rush, exemplifying repubs that are too moderate for him. i think he is frustrated.

[Badray]

Did you ever stop to consider that:

1] Without this "Big Tent Theory" that the GOP would actually stand for something? Pretending that RINOs and liberal pubbies are our friends just so that we can claim big numbers is insane. They are there to dilute our message and effectiveness.

2] That if we (Yes, I am a registered Republican that worked for W's election) really stood for solid principle that we could offer a real alternative to the Dems instead of being the Demolite Party?

3] That if there was a real bright line difference in what we do in office (not just the campaign rhetoric) that we would be able to build a real party by stopping the drift to third parties and apathy? Ignore the third parties for a moment. Look at all of those that dropped out altogether because of disgust by not seeing a real difference. (Yes, I know that there are differences, but not enough difference in enough issues and the bottom line is that we keep spending more and growing government larger and more intrusive even with and maybe especially with GOP majorities.)

4] That if we build that real party, that we might not me sinking into socialism at the rate that we are under the current 'two versions of one party' system?

Flame away!

[Badray]

Did you ever stop to consider that:

1] Without this "Big Tent Theory" that the GOP would actually stand for something? Pretending that RINOs and liberal pubbies are our friends just so that we can claim big numbers is insane. They are there to dilute our message and effectiveness.

2] That if we (Yes, I am a registered Republican that worked for W's election) really stood for solid principle that we could offer a real alternative to the Dems instead of being the Demolite Party?

3] That if there was a real bright line difference in what we do in office (not just the campaign rhetoric) that we would be able to build a real party by stopping the drift to third parties and apathy? Ignore the third parties for a moment. Look at all of those that dropped out altogether because of disgust by not seeing a real difference. (Yes, I know that there are differences, but not enough difference in enough issues and the bottom line is that we keep spending more and growing government larger and more intrusive even with and maybe especially with GOP majorities.)

4] That if we build that real party, that we might not me sinking into socialism at the rate that we are under the current 'two versions of one party' system?

Flame away!

[Badray]

Sorry for the double post. My PC hiccup'ed.

All that being said above, Arnold is shaping up to be the front runner and it will be interesting to watch. My choice if I lived in Cali would be McClintock, but my choice usually doesn't win anyway.

[Hugin]

This economy can not be fixed by a political novice.

What makes you think experience in politics equates to fiscal ability? Maybe a mayor or governor experience might be relevent, but legislators mostly just pass laws and vote up or down on budgets. At least Arnold has run a highly successful business empire. He has more hands-on managerial and budgetary experience than most politicians.

[My2Cents]

OK, what do you suggest we do? In Maine, for instance, should we insist that Olympia Snowe run as a Democrat, or refuse to vote for her? While Olympia Snowe isn't my ideological cup of tea, considering the political make-up of Maine, she's probably the best we can expect the Republican Party to produce. And her and Susan Collins being in the Senate means the difference between having Bill Frist as Majority Leader, or Tom Daschle. To me, that's a big reason to support the likes of Snowe and Collins. (I found it interesting that in looking at the American Conservative Union's rating of members of Congress for last year, Snowe rated a 65, while Barbara Boxer rated a 5.)

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Republicans jettison conservative principles to increase the numbers. What I'm suggesting is that I'd prefer to have someone in office I agreed with 55% of the time than someone I disagreed with 95% of the time. If a pure conservative has a viable candidacy, then by all means fight to the death for that person. But in a state where a pure conservative would mean sure defeat, it's prudent to settle for less, considering the alternative. (And I'll readily admit that considering the nature of the recall election in California, there is the likelihood that a conservative could win -- Arnold isn't the only one who can win this for Republicans.)

And to those who would never consider voting for a Republican who isn't 100% conservative, I urge them to read Ann Coulter's book, TREASON, and discover who the real enemy is.

[My2Cents]

And to those who would never consider voting for a Republican who isn't 100% conservative, I urge them to read Ann Coulter's book, TREASON, and discover who the real enemy is.

Sorry. I didn't realize I'd already said this in a previous post on this thread. I didn't mean to hammer away on the same point.