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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!
Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!
Journey to the Cross-roads
The Two Towers Edition
Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)
Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.
TOPICS: The Hobbit Hole
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To: Overtaxed
He gets his haircuts at Tolkien Town!
C'mon down to Tolkien Town!
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Hi, RWRF, nice to see you again!
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
He looks like that maple that dropped its crown on my power line last week.
To: Overtaxed
I think the Easterlings looked artistically Asian in culture, which, along with the Oliphants, may be pretty accurate. They certainly had beautiful armament. The other group, maybe Southrons? - were clearly wearing turbans.
I am going to notice a lot more tonight.
To: ecurbh
That would be fun. Annoying to 600 other people, but fun ;~D
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Yes, they obviously got their maps at Tolkien Town! - And who could blame them! - It is the premier source for everything Tolkien!
To: Wneighbor
looks like OT got you taken care of! Enjoy! - I bet we have some chat-events soon. We don't use it all the time, and we usually announce via email and here when a chat-view or other event is happening!
To: HairOfTheDog
3 of us are in there right now
To: 2Jedismom
The Lord of the Peeps is a scream! Somebody had WAY too much time on their hands!! Clare said she'd heard of LOTP, but I hadn't. I e-mailed her the link and she's going to send it to a friend of hers.
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12/18/2002 6:50:25 PM PST
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To: Sam Cree; ecurbh
ARGH! - I don't have time to chat now! Gotta go to the movie!
Namárië!
To: HairOfTheDog
Namarie
To: Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog
Hey, thanks ya'll. I went through the procedure. Hopefully this will get me some life outside work and work and uh oh yeah, work.
To: Sam Cree
Hi Sam! It's good to be back. Can't wait to see the movie. When are you going to see it?
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I was waiting for my wife to finish her final exams...hope maybe tomorrow or Friday...did you see it yet?
To: All
We are returned from The Movie...
Here are my thoughts, fresh from seeing it, without reading anyone else's thoughts (well, mostly...) Spoilers galore!
Wow.
Where's the next one?
Things that I liked... Smeagol/Gollum. The CGI is incredible. I think this is the first CGI character I've seen that had believable facial expressions. It was easy to read his emotions on his face... and the way his internal arguments were shown was very believable and suspenseful. The first time it happened, many in the audience laughed; but when it happened again, near the end of the movie, no one laughed. By then, everyone understood what was happening, and that it was important, not silly.
The Ents were well done; like many, I didn't have a firm visualization of my own regarding what they looked like. I think PJ's visualization is a pretty good one, though.
The Battle of Helm's Deep was technically brilliant. Watching in real time on the big screen, I could not tell where the CGI began and ended.
Now, things that I didn't like (yes, there were some...) I didn't like Arwen's wavering on whether to stay or go. I realize why PJ made that change, but I think it could have been done differently.
The Battle of Helm's Deep seemed oddly... flat. It was missing a triumphal moment; maybe that was because this is the middle film, and Helm's Deep was just the first victory of a much longer war. And, the A-Number-1 thing I really, really didn't like...
The whole side trip to Osgiliath with Faramir was unnecessary, IMHO. More than that, it was a nearly complete savaging of Faramir's character. In the book, Faramir resisted the lure of the ring; in terms of strength of character, he was stronger than his brother. In the movie though, he falls to the lure of the Ring, then after seeing the Nazgul he changes his mind and sends the Ring away. Maybe this shows he has understood the danger of the Ring and realized the wisdom of sending it away, but superficially at least it makes him look weaker than Boromir. He's so wishy-washy couldn't even summon the guts to make a grab for the Ring, but chickens out when faced with the Nazgul. From a strong, certain, and wise character he has been transformed into a weak, uncertain, vacillating character. In my opinion, this is the only real mis-step PJ has made in his adaptation.
Spoilers off! Now I'm going to go back and read what everyone else had to say! :)
To: Lil'freeper; Overtaxed; g'nad
To: Sam Cree
No. I can't until Sunday afternoon. 8^( So I'm living on the tidbits everyone is throwing around here! It sounds so great I can hardly stand it....
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Here's a tidbit....the orc competition with Gimli and Legolas is on...but I guess they didn't have the nerve to tell us that the dwarf won!
To: Overtaxed
Well of course. You don't think the snoots would ever admit a dwarf beat them at anything? 8^)
BTW my employers are elves that are beginning to resemble orcs.... Corporate America is swarming with orcs these days. I hate to admit it, but it's true.... Thinking of looking for Hobbit employers, but they are hard to find....
To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Sigh....I've found some hobbit-like employers but they're moving to Kansas next year.
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