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Islamists are Courting Extermination
The Journal - Free Britannia ^ | December 3, 2002 | T. R. Spence

Posted on 12/03/2002 8:30:28 AM PST by GhengisKhan

Perhaps a general war between the Western world and Islam is inevitable. It is obvious that a serious percentage of Muslims, most notably those who follow Osama Bin Laden, feel so. And they are courting such war with glee. Thus, despite efforts by the Bush administration and others aimed at convincing Americans that Islam is a peaceful religion, many, if not most, Americans are unconvinced and hostile - and are rapidly becoming more so. And, if the news is any indication, this is going to get worse, not better, in the future. The administration's rhetoric to one side, all Americans see is an unending litany of terrorist acts all over the world –and all committed by Muslims.

In the days prior to Sept. 11, 2001, most Americans were unaware that Muslim terrorism is a worldwide problem. That has now changed. Just as Pearl Harbor opened American eyes to the dangers of Imperial Japan, Americans now see that Muslims are actively engaged in terrorist actions against the governments of almost every non-Muslim government in the world – and in many Muslim states as well.

Attempts to justify such acts, either by pointing to a perceived failure of America to treat Muslims “fairly”, the U.S. support of Israel, the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia now ring hollow to the majority of Americans. They can see, indeed Muslims have told them, that their one great crime is simply that we have failed to become Muslims. It is no exaggeration to say that a large percentage of Americans -- rapidly becoming the majority-- are now convinced that Muslims mean exactly what they say when they say their goal is to convert the population of the entire planet to Islam - or kill them trying.

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Islamists are Courting Extermination - American Comment
Posted by True Romaine Spence (---.tnt16.beaverton.or.da.uu.net) on Sunday December 01 2002 @ 04:07AM GMT

Perhaps a general war between the Western world and Islam is inevitable. It is obvious that a serious percentage of Muslims, most notably those who follow Osama Bin Laden, feel so. And they are courting such war with glee. Thus, despite efforts by the Bush administration and others aimed at convincing Americans that Islam is a peaceful religion, many, if not most, Americans are unconvinced and hostile - and are rapidly becoming more so.

And, if the news is any indication, this is going to get worse, not better, in the future. The administration's rhetoric to one side, all Americans see is an unending litany of terrorist acts all over the world –and all committed by Muslims.

In the days prior to Sept. 11, 2001, most Americans were unaware that Muslim terrorism is a worldwide problem. That has now changed. Just as Pearl Harbor opened American eyes to the dangers of Imperial Japan, Americans now see that Muslims are actively engaged in terrorist actions against the governments of almost every non-Muslim government in the world – and in many Muslim states as well.

Attempts to justify such acts, either by pointing to a perceived failure of America to treat Muslims “fairly”, the U.S. support of Israel, the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia now ring hollow to the majority of Americans. They can see, indeed Muslims have told them, that their one great crime is simply that we have failed to become Muslims. It is no exaggeration to say that a large percentage of Americans -- rapidly becoming the majority-- are now convinced that Muslims mean exactly what they say when they say their goal is to convert the population of the entire planet to Islam - or kill them trying.

The problem is, of course, that most of the world is not Muslim and is not interested in embracing Islam. Nor will they ever be. A Christian committed to Christ, a Hindu to Lord Ram, a Jew to Yahweh, a Buddhist to the Eightfold Path – all share one thing -- a commitment to their chosen faith, their chosen path and a certainty that theirs is the true choice. The major difference between their faiths and Islam is Islam is the only major creed that currently advocates jihad.

The pattern that is increasingly being played out in Europe and other locations around the world seems to be for Muslims to inject themselves as a minority into a target society and begin demanding special privileges due to their faith. Of course, they immediately begin proselytizing and demanding that non-Muslims adhere to Islamic codes of behavior out of “respect.”

But, when the non-Muslim people of that society (who do not wish to be converted) or the secular governments of those societies (who are determined to keep the peace) begin clamping down on the more outrageous forms of Muslim behavior (e.g. female circumcision), the affected Muslims then consider themselves "oppressed." Once they consider themselves "oppressed," and the more fanatical elements of the Islamic community begin advocating (in the name of Allah, of course) armed jihad.

Now, according to the media, the Administration and the majority of (English language) Muslim media, this is not true of all Muslims. They plead for understanding and sympathy, crying that all Muslims should not be tarnished for the acts of a fanatical and violent few. CAIR and other pro-Islamic mouthpieces have made this point endlessly, and (initially at least) Americans were willing to listen. But reality has a way of trickling past filters. American watched and listened to the voices from around the world and what we heard – and what we didn’t hear, was disturbing.

Americans heard the litany of discrimination and profiling complaints. But what we did not hear, from the mosques and prayer leaders of Islam was a strong denunciation of the terrorist acts themselves. Instead we heard justifications, half-hearted lip service and in many places, gleeful support. In addition to what we heard, there are things we saw. We saw and read about Muslims celebrating the attack on the World Trade Center. We saw and read, via the Internet, an Arabic language media that is still filled with the violent rhetoric of Jihad, and hatred against any and all non-Muslims. And, of course, the terror continues in the form of suicide bombings in Israel, Bali, Aden, and just yesterday, Kenya.

And this is a key issue. For, despite any and all attempts by Palestinians and their sympathizers to justify suicide bombings as a "legitimate tool of resistance" they will never be accepted as such by the Americans and are, instead, instrumental in convincing Americans that America must eventually go to war with Islam. Such a war, if it occurs, would be a worldwide tragedy.

The justifications of the suicide bombers and those who support them do not even register on the mind of average Americans. To them, the idea of a person strapping explosives to their body and then detonating those explosives in a way kills innocent men, women and children is an act of such appalling evil that it contaminates everything related to it. Simply put, if the perpetrators claim that Islam justifies and condones such acts, Islam is evil.

For these and other reasons, America’s perception of Islam has changed. To American eyes, Islam is no longer a religion among other religions. Americans are increasingly unwilling to extend to Islam the same tolerance they extend to the vast majority of religions, cults or schools of philosophy. Instead, because of its own actions, Americans have been forced to conclude that Islam is a virulent and voracious sub-cultural of humanity that spawns violence everywhere it goes. And quietly, Americans are building the internal fortitude to fight back.

But, perhaps, it does not have to be this way. Perhaps it is true that most Muslims are peaceful, and resent strenuously the fact that they are associated with and grouped together with the fundamentalists who are dragging the world into war. To them, the American people would strongly suggest that they make a clear split from fundamentalist Islam and form a separate recognizable sub-sect, known that incorporates tolerance for other creeds -- one that specifically renounces armed jihad. These peaceful Muslims must also expel and refuse to harbor the fundamentalists and terrorists who support armed jihad.

Because the bottom line is clear. Mainstream, peaceful Islam – if indeed it exists at all -- must prove it is willing to coexist in peace with the other religions of the world. And, they must do it soon, because there is not much time left. We are truly at the brink of the general war the fanatics are courting. Another major terrorist attack, the use of a weapon of mass destruction, and the American majority may force a general war against Islam worldwide. If that happens – all bets are off.


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61 posted on 12/03/2002 11:44:03 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: GhengisKhan
So you're the guy we're all to the Right of, eh....;^)

The historical analogues don't look good for the Muslim Arabs.

There's just no end to history, evidently.
62 posted on 12/03/2002 11:50:29 AM PST by headsonpikes
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To: GhengisKhan
bttt
63 posted on 12/03/2002 11:56:38 AM PST by lainde
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To: demosthenes the elder
Exactly. You are either with the terrorists and see their ends that 'justify' their means as acceptable or you are against them and do your part. I have seen no real evidence that moderates, by their actions to weed out their murdering extremists, to believe they will have a different fate than the murderers.
64 posted on 12/03/2002 12:01:49 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: GhengisKhan
It is no exaggeration to say that a large percentage of Americans -- rapidly becoming the majority-- are now convinced that Muslims mean exactly what they say when they say their goal is to convert the population of the entire planet to Islam - or kill them trying.

I personally think more Americans still need to take off their blinders and wake up to this fact.

65 posted on 12/03/2002 12:03:47 PM PST by Pagey
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To: GhengisKhan
Whew, this one nails it! I have repeatedly said that we are in a struggle between light and darkness. Eventually (soon) we could find ourselves with a policy of brinkmanship that is today unimagineable. For example - following another significant event, our President may announce that the next attack will be followed by the elimination of a major population center(s) within the Muslim world. The President will, in effect, be telling the extremists that it will be their decision for the extermination of millions of Islam followers.
66 posted on 12/03/2002 12:04:13 PM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: agrace
I am sure glad that he is on our side!
67 posted on 12/03/2002 12:04:21 PM PST by SouthernHawk
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To: Paul Ross
Thank you so much for your post!

I suspect the Administration has been trying to keep people from taking the law into their own hands ever since 9/11.

IMHO, if a WMD annihilated hundreds of thousands in our homeland - then every person going into or out of a mosque, or with an Arab last name or even a different hue - could become fodder. A lot of innocent people would be lost in the heat of such retaliation.

68 posted on 12/03/2002 12:14:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: auggy
You left out the number 1 major reason Christianity will win.

We have Jesus Christ on our side.

Yessir, I see it all now. Jesus sittin' up there in heaven, making sure that we win.....

...a war which in in direct contradiction to everything he taught during his short life on earth.

Zealotry it its worst form.

69 posted on 12/03/2002 12:21:26 PM PST by Beenliedto
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To: Terriergal
Interesting, too, how it links directly to the FOR.usa website, which is transparently run by the communist front organization which is constantly trolling for 'useful idiots', to help undermine US defenses .
70 posted on 12/03/2002 12:21:33 PM PST by Paul Ross
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To: GhengisKhan
Thanks, GhengisKhan. A well stated article. Unfortunately, I don't know if enough Americans remain in our nation to actually pose a threat to Islam. Too many have given in to the PC nonsense.
71 posted on 12/03/2002 12:23:17 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: Paul Ross
AHH! Curiouser and curiouser!
72 posted on 12/03/2002 12:26:07 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Beenliedto
"...a war which in in direct contradiction to everything he taught during his short life on earth.

Zealotry it its worst form."

Obviously you have not read the Bible. When Jesus comes again it will not be as a sacrificial lamb but as a conquering King. You can call that zealotry if you like, but your misconceptions and biases won't change the truth.
73 posted on 12/03/2002 12:32:31 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: Alamo-Girl
"A lot of innocent people would be lost in the heat of such retaliation."

And it would be sad - tragic - if it were to come to pass. It is too bad that the "moderate" and "peaceful" faction of Islam does not stand up vigorously denounce the "heretics" that are giving Islam such a bad image, even though Western Civilization is begging on hands and knees for a reason not to retaliate against all of Islam.

But I think they cannot. As long as the jihadis can claim they are fighting for Islam, the rest of the Islamic world cannot truly oppose them - due to constraints within Islam itself that legitimize any act against infidels. And so a tragedy of epic proportions is about to befall Islam, Western Civilization, or both.
74 posted on 12/03/2002 12:35:03 PM PST by calenel
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To: MoGalahad
Too many have given in to the PC nonsense.

I sense the worm is turning on this somewhat - don't you? I think the so-called silent majority are showing signs of being fed up. I hope it continues.

75 posted on 12/03/2002 12:49:29 PM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: Paul Ross
They really think they'll attract and recruit the young "peace-niks" by linking islam with the peace symbol, don't they? Trouble is, there's plenty of young, easily influenced bone-heads that might fall for it. John Walker Lindh is an example to the extreme. But with tension in Iraqi ratcheting up another notch or two, some anti-war protesters could easily go down the wrong path.
76 posted on 12/03/2002 12:50:42 PM PST by fivecatsandadog
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To: Post Toasties
If governments are installed in the Mideast that disallow the more violent teachings of Islam as being subversive, I think that would go a long way toward resolving the problem.

Wow. England thought the same thing 100 years ago. Any idea how that worked out? </sarcasm>
77 posted on 12/03/2002 12:51:17 PM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: calenel
As long as the jihadis can claim they are fighting for Islam, the rest of the Islamic world cannot truly oppose them - due to constraints within Islam itself that legitimize any act against infidels. And so a tragedy of epic proportions is about to befall Islam, Western Civilization, or both.

The tragedy is that we must kill the islamics to end the war. We cannot accept their surrender or their conversion to Christianity as sincere because their religion COMMANDS them to lie to unbelievers in order to advance their cult.

So, unfortunately the only good islamic is a dead islamic. This applies to those within this country as well as to those without. The cult is disordered enough that the adherents can never be trusted.

God Save America (Please)

78 posted on 12/03/2002 1:09:32 PM PST by John O
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To: MoGalahad
Obviously you have not read the Bible. When Jesus comes again it will not be as a sacrificial lamb but as a conquering King. You can call that zealotry if you like, but your misconceptions and biases won't change the truth.

Oh, I didn't understand that we were talking about the second coming here.

I thought we were taking about the ethnic cleansing of the entire arab population.

Excuse my error.

79 posted on 12/03/2002 1:37:02 PM PST by Beenliedto
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To: calenel
Thank you for your post! I agree with you.

And so a tragedy of epic proportions is about to befall Islam, Western Civilization, or both.

It might even be of Biblical proportions.

80 posted on 12/03/2002 1:40:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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