[Rodney King]

I guess 245 posts by 12 noon tomorrow.

[stainlessbanner]

Another New Yawker weighs in on Southern Culture - that's always interesting.

I would be happy with more critical thinking in our classrooms - we've got so PC with our education, that certain issues get a free pass, while others remain "unmentionable."

[Illbay]

LoS is a white supremacist organization that doesn't even have the guts to admit it.

And it has many, many followers here on FR. Right SSB?

For those who don't know: SSB posts NOTHING but diatribes about how "Duh South Gon' RAZZ Agin'!"

[Fiddlstix]

[strela]

Blacks and women both have months to celebrate their heritage, other white Virginians argued. Don't Confederates deserve the same privilege?

Because Caucasians get the other 10 months out of the year to celebrate their heritage? And are more than welcome to celebrate their heritage during the other two months too?

Justin Wilson, the famed Cajun comic, once told a story about two duck hunters who pounded on the door of the local game warden, demanding "We want one more month to hunt duck!" The warden, clad only in his union suit after getting out of bed to answer the men's hammering on his door, said "What?" Both hunters repeated, "We want one more month to hunt duck! Duck season ends tomorrow, and we want one more month to hunt duck!" The game warden looked at both of them, asking "What you gonna name it?" The hunters looked, mystified, at the warden. "What you mean, 'What we gonna name it?'" The warden replied, "You already hunt 'em 12 months outta de year - if you want a new month, you gotta have a new name for dat month."

[MacDorcha]

"Second, right-wing multiculturalism provides a tremendous chance to promote the inquiry-based pedagogy that many liberals say they want."

Question: why dont you see conservatives using words like this?

Answer: we arent trying to baffle our followers into a fervent roar.

he could have easily have said "right-wing multiculturalism provides a chance to promote equal-opportunity libby $h17..." but he wants to try to have a more sophisticated sound. he wants to be intimidating.... he wants to sound like he has more of a clue about his mind-set than we do.

funny, if you read into it enough, his inflated words and attempts to be recognized for his mind proves that he has concious doubts about his own equality in a world that can do something, while all he can do is raise a stink. the only reason that blacks in general feel they are being supressed, is because they are, well, supressing themselves so as to be able to raise the stink they do. noone does it but them anymore (note, i said "generally")

[Hank Kerchief]

My wife and I were standing in front of large display of books in a South Carolina bookstore. The book being displayed was titled, Southern Culture.

I waited 'til a number of other shoppers were around us to announce to my wife, "Oh, honey, remember when you aksed me what an oxymoron is? There's a great one on that book, Southern Culture.

I expected some hostile reaction from the natives, but realized they had no idea what I had just said.

LOL

Hank

[NewRomeTacitus]

The South was doing a fine job "razzin 'agin" until the Feds mandated that immigration control to be under their sole purview. With that they unleashed a new weapon to suck up resources and halt the progress we'd begun after the boot of "Reconstruction" was lifted only a few decades ago. No other word is appropriate: the Federal government has been niggardly in support against the invasion of illegals from south of our border. They refuse to support our hospitals while mandating the invaders receive services without any means of renumeration. They mandate that our classrooms take on the deluge at the expense of our own childrens' education. They force our lesser skilled citizens to compete with a labor pool of opportunists at the expense of everyone's pocketbook.
Now why would we Southerners be upset?

[TomServo]

Dixie Bump!

[setting_the_record_straight]

Good Evening Stainlessbanner.

I'm jumping into this discussion a bit late but I would like to make a few comments with respect to Mr.Zimmermans obvious warped since of defining a person.

As I am new to this forum I'm still adjusting to how things work here with respect to who is posting to who and so on.

The first issue I would like to address is:

Zimmerman Quote: The correct answer is "C," the white activist. He's Johnny Hostler, chair of the A.P. Hill Chapter of Virginia's League of the South.

So do to the fact I'm proud of my Country's (Virginia) heritage I'm termed a "white activist". It's called bigotry.


Here is the letter to the editor in question I sent out on 4/07/02

My response to The recent decision not to declare April

"Confederate History Month"
in Virginia

Our Governor of Virginia seems to have a double standard:
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:58:51

I must say that I am truly dishearten by the Governor of The Great State Virginia for his recent decision not to declare April "Confederate History Month", now correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe the State of Virginia along with our nation recently recognized February as "Black
History Month" this would imply that one is better than the other.

Lets define "RACISM", the American Heritage Dictionary 2nd College edition states: The belief that some races are inherently better than others.

The Webster's New World Dictionary 3rd edition states: Racial discrimination or persecution, with persecution being the continuous torment for one's beliefs.

Or maybe we should be looking up "GENOCIDE",
the systematic, planned annihilation of a Race, Political or Cultural Group.

Southerners are through being ashamed, Our brave ancestors didn't fight and die for the institution of slavery. By 1861, the first year of the Confederacy, slavery was already a fading economic practice, and only a very small percentage of landowners were able to afford to keep slaves.

The boys in gray fought for the values expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

They fought for their states, their homes, and principles of limited government. They fought against oppressive tariffs. In fact, they left the union despite Lincoln's promise NOT to interfere with slavery.

Slavery was quite simply never the deciding issue. And let's not forget: it was the NORTH that invaded the South, thus starting the war.

We aren't backing down anymore. The days of one-sided, ignorant, and racist attacks are done. The South is proud of our HERITAGE, HEROES and our FLAGS.

We will honor our heritage, fly our flags, and speak out against the GENOCIDE of our culture.

Virginians to forget our past is to condemn our future!

Johnny Hostler
Chairman
A.P.Hill Chapter
Virginia State LOS


For the record I'm no longer serving in the capacity of Chairman of the A.P.Hill Chapter nor am I a paying supporting member of the LoS.

My factual positions:

Zimmerman Quote: By ignoring or neglecting these facts, we clear the way for white Southerners to airbrush out their own foibles.

I've noticed now that Mr.Zimmerman has at least twice referred to Southroners as the "white southerners" When I speak of Southroners I exclude color for their where and are Southroners of all colors. Mr.Zimmerman seems to be the one with the issue of color here, I'm seeking equality not racial gains.


Zimmerman Quote: According Johnny Hostler's League of the South, for example, the Civil War was not really about slavery; instead, it was a war for Southern independence, modeled after the same principles as the revolution itself: freedom, equality and self-determination.

I challenge Mr.Zimmerman as well as anyone to provide the factual truth to discredit my position that Virginians where fighting to preserve the same principles as the American Revolution itself: FREEDOM, EQUAILY and SELF-DETERMINATION!


Zimmerman Quote: Imagine a high school history class that really debated this proposition. The class would have to examine the origins of slavery in North America; the drafting of the Constitution, which deemed each slave three-fifths of a person; the industrialization of the North; the extension of slavery into the West; the rise of sectionalism in the South; and so on.

Yeah imagine that high schoolers actually being taught factual history as opposed to the revisionist crap their peddling in the system today.



Zimmerman Quote: In a full and fair discussion, I believe, most students would recognize that the defense of slavery was integral -- not incidental -- to the Confederate cause.

Of coarse I disagree. As I detest this stereotypical response from a obvious revisionist!


Zimmerman Quote: Rather than celebrating our respective "cultures," then, let's subject them to analysis and argument in American schools. And may the best argument win.


No, lets rather celebrate all our cultures equally and quite the constant divisions pressed upon us from the U.S.Empire.