Elizabeth Smart thread, August 24-31, 2002

[IamHD]

I don't know when Utahn children start school, but Elizabeth should/would be starting the 9th grade, soon. :(

[Sherlock]

FRackers - spore-gasm, cherry, bella, varina davis, lakey, FR_addict, hergus, iwo jima, joopac, TXLady, landerwy, et al. Where is lakey by the way.

[jo6pac]

Actually, I rather doubt she is aware of any culture beyond the northeast.

Is there?

Just jokin'

[FR_addict]

I found this on-line.
http://www.telephone-numbers.org/index7S.htm

You give us a business number and other general information and we'll give you 1-monthly billing cycle of outgoing toll calls for only $99.00 for long distance calls or local toll calls. Times and dates also available for $49.00 additional.

So you can at least get local toll calls. I don't know if the calls from a pay phone would be local toll calls. They'll do cell phones and residential phones too.

Interesting how much of our privacy is gone now.

[FR_addict]

Aren't you cute.

There you go being a liberal again with your name calling instead of addressing the issues.

[Neenah]

Did any report come out on the forensics done on the Jeep? Inside and out?

Let's say they did run tests, which I believe was the reason they impounded the Jeep, right?

If they found the tiniest bit of DNA, there would have been an arrest...right?

No arrest took place. Do you think that means the Jeep was clean? No DNA found ?

[Neenah]

Spore and I were thinking of starting the...

Gorgeous But Very Young Club

Want to join?

[FR_addict]

Do you have to be gorgeous and young to join?
If not, I want in.

[Neenah]

Do you have to be gorgeous and young to join? If not, I want in.

If you check the thread from this morning....you will understand !!

[FR_addict]

Neth says he said Ricci left the Jeep at the shop and carried several items, including the car's seat covers, a post-hole digger and a machete knife, across 3500 South to a Phillips 66 gas station where he met a white man with dark hair and left in what Neth describes as a blue van.

None of the recent articles mention the phone call.

[varina davis]

Is there?

Some think so.

[Soccer-Dad777]

"In addition to our vulnerability, some of the other lessons from September 11th that resound anew in our hearts are: There is a very real, unseen enemy. We need the help and protection of a higher power."--excerpt from Smart family statement of 6/28/02

Didn't mean to come across the way you interpreted. I, too, am a free thinker, and I don't like the tacky red get-up either. I guess the Smarts were referring to the Taliban as that "very real, unseen enemy."

[Iwo Jima]

I don't know why the term "cracker" seems to be primarily a Georgia term or how it actually began. But the common understanding of the term as I grew up using it is to describe the poor, lower class white farmers eeking out a living on poor land. They were uneducated but hard-working, although not necessarily innovative or entrepreneurial. They were shrewd and crafty but not dishonest.

"Crackers" should never be confused with "poor white trash" -- that's another class of people entirely.

That crackers were considered to possess the best characteristics of the common man is born out by the fact that Georgia's semi-professional baseball team in the Fifties was called the "Atlanta Crackers." Also, one of the most sympathetic characters in Gone With The Wind was Will Benteen, who married Scarlett's whiny sister SueEllen. Will was a cracker who without any education or managerial experience brought Tara back after the war to something approaching its prior glory -- without using slave labor, of course.

People who use the word "cracker" as a put-down are uninformed as well as incredibly insenstive. And usually elitist snobs.

[varina davis]

Here's a scenario for you: Ricci induces his own stroke, stays on life support until the Dept. of Corrections decides it's no longer going to pay for his medical care then grants parole. He is taken to a remote location to live in a vegetative state until he dies - but, wily little character that he is, comes out of his coma, and lives a life of freedom for many, many years on the money the real perp paid him to be the fall guy. How's that?

That was a clever interlude, spore. LOL.

[varina davis]

I'm disappointed in you.

Well now, that sure ruins my day.

[Sherlock]

But not this time. This time, "his face all sweat," Neth said. "He had a machete on the side of his body and a post-hole digger. I'm thinking maybe he's doing yardwork somewhere."

All sweaty, maybe he wasn't digging so far away from SLC after all. Remember all the windows in the Jeep were rolled down. Also reminds me though of OJ in the taxi going to the airport, he was still sweating profusely and that was some time after Nicole's murder.

The search is based on a tip from two hikers who spotted a man digging a rectangular hole near some overhanging bushes just a few days after Elizabeth's disappearance. When the hikers asked what he was doing, he said he was digging a pit in which to roast a pig. The hikers left but considered the situation suspicious because it was so close to the bushes. When they returned, the man was gone. They called law-enforcement officials, who searched the area and found nothing.

I wonder why they didn't bother making a composite sketch of this fellow. Either SLCPD just doesn't like some sketches or something seems to be wrong. I still think they should.

[sandude]

perhaps there is someone who is the main dude and Ricci could have cleared himself or rather diluted the main charges against him.

Hey!!! You wouldn't be accusing me would ya!

Seriously, I agree with your analysis. It is impossible to gauge who the main player is in this. It is really open to speculation as to how big a role Ricci played. I do feel he was the abductor and would have faced a death penalty if he was convicted of the crime. I think it was probably a kidnapping for ransom but it is still possible that Ricci grabbed Elizabeth for a fee.

[sandude]

I think $3k as opposed to $250k seems paltry.

The $25K reward is still out there for someone who leads them to Elizabeths body. The $250K is for her safe return. I get the feeling that they will pay multiple $3K rewards to various people who offer information that will help solve the case. I'll check Elizabeth's website to see if they have more details on this new reward.