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AMERICA the Right Way--Day 576--REMEMBER THE TRADE CENTER
Various News Sources and FReepers | 8/19/02 | All of us

Posted on 08/19/2002 2:25:05 AM PDT by Guenevere

My faith wasn't rooted in governments, religion, tall buildings, or frail people. My faith and my security were in God" ....Lisa Beamer


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: atrw; letsroll
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To: Guenevere
could it be I don't pay attention

Nope! Actually, I don't think I've ever mentioned it before! Not sure why. :)

41 posted on 08/19/2002 5:55:26 AM PDT by Rivendell
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To: Rivendell
#41...Well, we are proud to know this :)
42 posted on 08/19/2002 5:56:22 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Miss Marple
You know, today it's only been Brian & Juliet on FOX, and I've sooo enjoyed it!!
43 posted on 08/19/2002 5:57:31 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere
I wasn't calling you a yardbird! I was referring to the general time of day. hehehe
44 posted on 08/19/2002 6:51:32 AM PDT by still lurking
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To: still lurking; *ATRW
LOL, well, just checking :)

I've never been called a yardbird before :)

OK, off to exercise class....

Later Freepers :)

45 posted on 08/19/2002 7:16:47 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Guenevere
Well, shoot, I missed you. Granddaughter arrived and I had to get her settled.

Yes, Brian and Julia cheer me up. They make a good team. ED is getting a little too full of herself in my opinion.

Off to do some laundry...back later!

46 posted on 08/19/2002 7:26:51 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Guenevere; LBKQ
Thanks for setting up the new thread for us today, Guennie. Good job!

LBKQ, that Bush Country article is wonderful! I've pinged a bunch of you over to take a look at it. Here's the link:

In Bush Country

Here's another good one that you may have missed over the weekend. Lots of helpful info here, even if you're not a newbie:

HTML Sandbox is locked - Requesting HTML Information, Links, etc. for FReeper Newbies

47 posted on 08/19/2002 7:35:09 AM PDT by Lorena
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To: Guenevere
Good morning all!

I hate to start the morning off to a nasty beginning but I am soooo upset!! First Snowy let me know they are passing out potassium pills in Pennsylvania to anyone within a 10 mile radius of Limerick power plant. Secondly, I'd like to post an article about the NEA's proposed lessons on 9/11 for everyone to read.

NEA delivers history lesson By Ellen Sorokin THE WASHINGTON TIMES The National Education Association is suggesting to teachers that they be careful on the first anniversary of the September 11 attacks not to "suggest any group is responsible" for the terrorist hijackings that killed more than 3,000 people. Suggested lesson plans compiled by the NEA recommend that teachers "address the issue of blame factually," noting: "Blaming is especially difficult in terrorist situations because someone is at fault. In this country, we still believe that all people are innocent until solid, reliable evidence from our legal authorities proves otherwise." But another of the suggested NEA lesson plans — compiled together under the title "Remember September 11" and appearing on the teachers union health information network Web site — takes a decidedly blame-America approach, urging educators to "discuss historical instances of American intolerance," so that the American public avoids "repeating terrible mistakes." "Internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor and the backlash against Arab Americans during the Gulf War are obvious examples," the plan says. "Teachers can do lessons in class, but parents can also discuss the consequences of these events and encourage their children to suggest better choices that Americans can make this time." The NEA Web site list includes more than 100 lesson plans teachers will be able to use to help elementary, middle and high school students integrate how they might remember the day's events through subjects such as art, drama and math. The Web site (www.neahin.org) is scheduled to go live Aug. 26. "America is very much together in terms of remembering September 11," said Jerald Newberry, executive director of the union's Health Information Network. "Americans see their schools as the place that will help their children make sense of these horrific events and move forward as better people." However, critics said some of the suggestions included in the lesson plans aimed at junior and senior high school students can be seen as an affront to Western civilization. The suggestions and lesson plans were developed by Brian Lippincott, affiliated with the Graduate School of Professional Psychology at the John F. Kennedy University in California. Critics argue the proposed lesson plans are a form of "cultural Marxism," in that the lessons defend all other cultures except Western civilization. "A lot of what's stated in these lesson plans are lies," said William S. Lind, director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism for the Free Congress Foundation, a conservative policy think tank. "None of what is mentioned in these plans are facts. It's an ultimate sin to now defend Western culture. It does not matter today whether a student learns any facts or any skills. What matters now is the attitude they come away with when they graduate school." The critics also have trouble with schools teaching about Islam, specifically when teachers describe it as a "peaceful religion." Instead, they say, schools should warn children that the root of the problem lies in Islamic teaching. "There is no such thing as peaceful Islam," Mr. Lind said. "It says that followers should make war on those who believe that Christ is the Messiah." Phyllis Schlafly, president of the conservative Eagle Forum, said schools should stick to teaching more important subjects such as math, English and science. "There is nothing that schools can add to what happened on September 11, that the children haven't already seen in the media," Mrs. Schlafly said. "They should stay off of it and teach what's true. They should leave it alone." Mr. Newberry said the suggested list was compiled by about 200 teachers from across the country after the NEA received hundreds of calls from parents shortly after September 11 asking the schools to help their children understand what happened. Mr. Newberry said that the site will feature speeches that will be read in New York City, including the "Gettysburg Address," the Declaration of Independence, Roosevelt's "Four Freedoms" speech and Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech. It also will include a look at using the Pledge of Allegiance; however, no specifics were announced. "Our goal is to capture from the patriotism point of view some of the history of the United States where outstanding leaders have spoken to the issues of patriotism and freedom," Mr. Newberry said. "I think it would be difficult to find an American who doesn't agree with remembering September 11. I think these critics are in the minority." Muslim groups applauded the NEA's efforts, saying the critics' statements are centered around "an anti-Muslim phobia." "The NEA's [lesson plans] provides teachers with a well-balanced, wide range of resources teachers can use to help teach students how to appreciate diversity," said Hodan Hassan, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based Council on American Islamic Relations. "You're only enriching the learning process. The critics' viewpoints will only harm the children."

I think the quotes by Phyliss Schafley are mort interesting in light of what the schools should and could do to help our kids understand the world and the USA place in it. sigh

48 posted on 08/19/2002 7:35:59 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
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To: LBKQ; still lurking; Rivendell; Guenevere; OneidaM; gulfcoast6; illstillbe; kachina; Bitwhacker; ...
If I left anyone out, I am truly sorry. My brain is fried along with every nerve that runs through my body and I am extremely tired today.

My father is doing very well; they moved him out of CCU on Saturday to a private room. When they ordered the MRI for him on Friday afternoon, the doctors were basically trying to rule out the worst case scenario which would have been that it was cancer and they were checking to see if it had spread to any other organs or the brain. On Saturday night, my mother called me and said that they were going to do a biopsy today (Monday) to find out what they could. They were also awaiting the results of the MRI and some other blood tests they had done, but the doctor told my Mom that IF they had found anything indicating that it was cancer and it had spread, they would have notified her (the doctor) immediately. Although we kind of sighed a breath of relief, it wasn't until yesterday afternoon that the doctor came in with the official word that nothing else showed up on the MRI, meaning that whatever it is that is making up the mass has not spread. That of course was our biggest and worst fear of all. Instead, they are now putting off the biopsy until later in the week and will be working on dissolving the clots around the mass itself. She told my parents that there is a good chance that this is NOT cancer; that it could be an infection or any one of several things but the most important thing was that the MRI was clear. The lung doctor (my Dad calls him "Dr. Death" because of his..um..shall we say, "bedside manner?") is to come in today to decide what he wants to do next, but the cardiologist said that for right now they need to concentrate on making sure his heart is working well, and that there was no damage done to the heart. He will probably be in the hospital for at least another week on the blood thinning medication. After my sister called me yesterday to tell me the great news (she was crying for the first time since all of this had begun), she gave me the phone number to my Dad's hospital room and I was able to talk to him. I cannot tell you how much that phone conversation meant to me; to hear my Dad's voice sounding so strong and confident and upbeat. He was very relieved of course by the results of the test, and he said to me that God was giving him another chance and he wasn't going to mess this one up. Hearing him talk about his own fear of dying was heartwrenching. He was more concerned about how I was doing down here....and I told him that I had plenty of people who were praying for all of us and that I was fine. He told me that although this is not over yet, the doctor told him that this was the biggest hurdle he had to overcome because if it had spread, it was too late. She also told him that she had been praying for good results before she read the MRI and that God had answered her prayers also...I don't know who was more excited...the doctor or my family. ;-)

If I've learned one single thing out of this (besides not to smoke) it's that the power of prayer is awesome. There is no doubt in my mind that God was listening to all who prayed for our family and my father. I also learned that I don't have to run away from the pain or the fear....that as horrible as the pain was that I was going through, as long as I relied on God and kept the faith everything would be okay. That is not an easy thing to do, but I also knew that no matter what the outcome was I couldn't change anything about it so there was no point in my worrying over something I couldn't change, I just concentrated on praying very hard and very diligently that God would give me the strength to handle whatever it was this turned out to be, good OR bad, and to take care of my Dad and our family. He did, He answered all the prayers that were said for my father. I believe that God also made me a stronger person in the last 4 days, too. I have always heard it said that God will not give you anthing you can't handle, and although at times this weekend I doubted that, the plain truth is that the saying is true. We all made it through what was at times an almost unbearable pain..the kind that just knocks the wind out of you...but we also learned that no matter how many times we might have fell off the proverbial "horse", we just kept getting back up again.

Thank you all for your prayers and thoughts, God was listening.

Deej

49 posted on 08/19/2002 7:37:21 AM PDT by DJ88
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To: DJ88
You are most welcome, Deej. So very glad to hear the good news. Your words of wisdom on prayer almost make me want to ask for prayers just for strengh to face whatever challenges I have in front of me. They are words that ring true....keep us posted this week if you can and prayers continue for your family and of course, you.
50 posted on 08/19/2002 8:03:24 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
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To: DJ88
What a beautiful and inspiring report, (((DJ))). I'm so glad to hear that things look so positive for your dad and that you are facing things with such spiritual maturity. Prayers continuing ... God always hears us. Thanks for letting us know how things are going and try to get some rest today.

I love the Amplified Version of the Bible verse you referred to:

1 Corinthians 10:13

For no temptation (no trial regarded as enticing to sin), [no matter how it comes or where it leads] has overtaken you and laid hold on you that is not common to man [that is, no temptation or trial has come to you that is beyond human resistance and that is not adjusted and adapted and belonging to human experience, and such as man can bear]. But God is faithful [to His Word and to His compassionate nature], and He [can be trusted] not to let you be tempted and tried and assayed beyond your ability and strength of resistance and power to endure, but with the temptation He will [always] also provide the way out (the means of escape to a landing place), that you may be capable and strong and powerful to bear up under it patiently.

51 posted on 08/19/2002 8:03:43 AM PDT by Lorena
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To: DJ88
Thank you for that nice report, DJ. It's especially nice to see the faith of you and your family strengthened through answered prayer. Prayers continue!
52 posted on 08/19/2002 8:04:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Holding Our Breath
Good morning, HOB. That is disturbing news about the potassium pills (do you have to take them?) and the NEA garbage is just despicable! I hope that the teachers have more sense than to follow these "suggestions" and that there is a huge backlash against the NEA because of this.
53 posted on 08/19/2002 8:08:59 AM PDT by Lorena
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To: Lorena; Holding Our Breath
Lorena..thank you for posting that verse. It is so very, very true. I think that at the beginning of this whole thing I could have easily made myself the poster child for nervous breakdown sufferers. ;-) However, after realizing (and talking to my friends) that there was absolutely NOTHING I could do except pray for him, the knot of fear that I felt in my stomach disappeared and I just kept plodding along, putting one foot in front of the other. Yes, I was still worried, but I was no longer paralyzed with the fear that I had been. I HAD NO CHOICE other than to think positively...not only for my sake, but for my Mom and Dad. The last thing they needed was me flailing about like Scarlett O'Hara in the noon day heat. ;-)

I talked to my brother last night and he told me that he knows Dad is feeling better, as he has rearranged EVERYTHING on his nightstand in his hospital room....and if you learn anything about my father in the years to come, it is that he likes things IN THEIR PLACE.

And yes, now I am going to try and get some sleep, because I really need it. Love to all....Deej

54 posted on 08/19/2002 8:14:08 AM PDT by DJ88
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To: Singapore_Yank
Thanks, SY...I am also praying for your friend? relative? that was in the car accident..I'm sorry if I got that wrong, but anyway all your family and friends have my prayers going upwardly. :-) Deej
55 posted on 08/19/2002 8:16:33 AM PDT by DJ88
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To: Lorena
Hi Lori, No, I don't have to take the pills myself right now. Maybe later, since I am not far from Washington, DC. My father is near Limerick so I am thinking maybe he needs to get them.

Yep, the good old NEA does it again!

56 posted on 08/19/2002 8:24:30 AM PDT by Holding Our Breath
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To: DJ88
Praise God

57 posted on 08/19/2002 8:37:56 AM PDT by still lurking
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To: Guenevere
This Is Opposition? [WSJ Editorial on the NYTimes]

Palestinian Guerrilla Chief Abu Nidal Dead-Sources
This is the guy Oliver North was actually talking about in the e-mail that's going around about Bin Laden.

White House rebuts (NY Times) story
NYT misqoutes Kissenger and misstates his position on dealing with Iraq.

58 posted on 08/19/2002 8:41:08 AM PDT by lepton
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To: DJ88
Prayers continue and we are so gratified to here the good news today! Remember, your Dad (like Larry) has multiple problems and each must be taken care of WITHOUT getting in the way of one of the other multiples....We are so very Blessed to be living in a time when our medical professionals have the answers and have the tools to heal.
59 posted on 08/19/2002 8:48:23 AM PDT by bevlar
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To: lepton
Afternoon everyone...

Lepton what e-mail is Ollie talking about...???

60 posted on 08/19/2002 9:38:51 AM PDT by Dog
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