Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..

Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

[demsux]

That goofy mascot of the SD Padres has long orange fibers all over it...maybe Mudd did it.

[mommya]

About that orange fiber from the wad of hair in the necklace - I wish they had been more specific about where it was found. I mean was it on the front of her neck - where it was easily seen - or was it at the back of the neck - under her hair - where it would not have been easily seen?

I really don't see how Shen was allowed to give the opinion that the fiber got there at or near the time of her death - did she consider that Danielle never took the neckace off - she said something about assuming grooming habits or something - she should not assume anything.

[hoosiermama]

I thought there was a dark orange and light orange fibers. DO I remember wrong?

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I have to admit that I was a wee bit wrong about something.

Yesterday, upon seeing Goff, I said he looked like Colonel Sanders.

Well, he still resembles the colonel, but I've found a better look-alike.

CAPTAIN KANGAROO

Then I realized that Jeff Dusek just might be related to this guy.

MR. GREEN JEANS

[clearvision]

I found some interesting comments in the transcript from Monday. It appears the prosecution will argue that DW destroyed evidence (this would mean someone likely committed the crime). The evidence mentioned is the dry cleaning of the jacket, the "missing" BLACK boots, Daniell's PJs and the items that contain orange and blue fibers! How can you claim someone destroyed something when you don't know what it is!

MR. DUSEK: 2.06 WOULD BE THE HIDING, DISPOSAL, GETTING RID OF, TRYING TO GET RID OF, THE BLOOD EVIDENCE ON THE JACKET, TAKING IT TO THE DRYCLEANER'S, TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP. TAKING THE COMFORTER TO THE DRYCLEANER'S WHEN IT STILL HAD DOG HAIRS ON IT. THE MISSING COWBOY BOOTS THAT HE APPARENTLY WAS WEARING THAT NIGHT. THEY HAVE BEEN LOST, DESTROYED, CONCEALED. THE VICTIM'S PAJAMAS HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND. THEY HAVE BEEN LOST, DESTROYED, CONCEALED. AND ALSO THE MATERIAL THAT CONTAINS THE BLUE AND ORANGE FIBERS, THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND OR LOCATED. I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN DESTROYED OR CONCEALED.

[Krodg]

Please say you're not adding porn to your site!!!!

[mommya]

I think there were a couple diferent kinds of orange fibers - but what you might be referring to is Shen descibing most of the fibers in question as bright orange - but she described the one found on the necklace as dull orange.

[Eva]

Oh, acrylic, much more common is sweaters, also, blankets and stuffed animals or dog beds. The sweater is beginning to look more and more likely. I know it had been discussed as red, but the shirts looked red to me, also. There seems to be some question about what color orange is.

[kayti]

"Do I rememember wrong?" Nope. But I believe they were described as 'faded' and 'bright'.

PS -- I didn't like your 'over ruling' judgment! Think I'll get an appeal?

[Jaded]

Um, not in this lifetime.

[pinz-n-needlez]

They never entered into evidence a photograph of that fiber in the hair mass, did they?

Not even a deteriorating polaroid like the sole picture of the drop of dna on the green jacket?

It would be very useful to see a context for that fiber and the surrounding tangle of hair. Oops, maybe that's why. /sarcasm

I agree, how on earth could she offer the expert opinion that it got there within a couple of days of Danielle's death?

[Jaded]

Per testimony there were no black boots. Dark brown or perhaps blackcherry which is a black-brown-burgundy depending on the light and what you're wearing it with.

[clearvision]

That is why I put the quote around "black". This is from Dusek on Monday 7/29. So he is still planning to say the black boots are missing even with that testimony.

[clearvision]

I can't find any testimony that dog hairs were found in the SUV. I don't know if that means there are none, or if they did not check. Seems strange that if the orange and blue fibers were from something used to carry Danielle that there would not also be the dog hairs in the SUV like those found with the other orange and blue fibers in the house.

[connectthedots]

A real detective can find these threads without being on a 'Ping List'.

[mommya]

No picture that I know of - Shen held the necklace up for the court and said approximately where she found the hair wad - but I think it was already off the body when she got hold of it - should be photos of it on the body somewhere.

[mommya]

When I first heard that the defense wanted the lesser charge thrown into the mix - I thought it was a no brainer - she was kidnapped as part of her killing - that a little kid could not consent - but I just saw this - and have reconsidered..........

MR. BOYCE: AND SHE COULD ALSO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE ROOM, TOO, IN HER BEDROOM. THERE'S BLOOD IN THE BEDROOM. I MEAN THOSE ARE -- I'M NOT SAYING WE ARE RELYING ON THOSE THEORIES, BUT THOSE ARE CERTAINLY THEORIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND THERE'S BEEN NO EVIDENCE AS TO WHERE, WHEN, OR HOW SHE WAS MURDERED.

If you think DW did it - he could have killed her in her room - and the prints/hair/fiber in the MH could have been from another time as well. They really have not shown where she was killed. So if he killed her first - in her room - then just took her dead body to dispose of - there really was no kidnapping - was there? Just thinkin.

[UCANSEE2]

There is no way you can allow testimony based on speculation like that to establish the *source* for a fiber.

That is exactly what the PROSECUTION is attempting to do. They have no facts, no proof, it is all speculation.

Tell me if I am incorrect.

[UCANSEE2]

But no matter, IIRC Danielle wasn't in uniform on the day they visited DW.

ANother of the GOOD GIRL SCOUT MOM B.S. stories goes down the tubes. IIRC it was rare for Danielle to ever have to wear her GS uniform. Too much trouble for MOM to go to.

[UCANSEE2]

P.S. In reading the testimony from BRENDA, she didn't deny that Danielle "DELIVERED" the cookies alone. Only that they took orders together. When asked about DELIVERY, she said something to the effect that ONE OF US delivered them.