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Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles
NBC 5 Chicago ^ | 7/26/02 | NBC 5 Chicago

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01

Timing Suspicious On Mysterious Suburban Crop Circles
Could Eerie Mystery Have To Do With Movie Release?

Is it a case of mysterious crop circles -- or an elaborate movie hoax?

A soybean farmer in Naperville said the broken, concentric rings that appeared in a field off Diehl Road left him scratching his head.

"Have you ever heard of something so crazy?" Steve Berning said. "Unbelievable."

Berning said the circles appeared last weekend and damaged more than 10 percent of his 8-acre field.

The circles do resemble similar ones seen in England, but in this case, the timing of their appearance in the western suburb is a bit suspicious.

Two weeks from now, "Signs" hits the big screen. The movie starring Mel Gibson involves -- you guessed it -- mysterious crop circles.

William Leone, an investigator with the Mutual UFO Network, said soil analysis could determine whether the circles have human or extraterrestrial origins.

But Illinois Farm Bureau spokesman Dennis Vercler scoffed at that idea.

"Since I don't believe in UFOs -- at least not soybean-destroying UFOs -- I have to assume whoever did this did it intentionally as a malicious prank," Vercler said.

Meanwhile, Berning doesn't seem overly upset about the circles.

"There's some damage, which upsets me," Berning said. "But I'm more curious than anything. I"ll always be asking questions."


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To: FormerLurker
Relax. Help is on the way. Everything will be explained to you.
"Aliens who crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 were invited by the rich, white and male-dominated government to perform "research"on US citizens. This "research" is performed primarily on Americans of color and those less advantaged living in remote rural areas. The permission to perform these "experiments" was granted in exchange for technical and military secrets from the aliens. "
That's just a hint of what awaits you at this website: Anal Probe Corporation .
241 posted on 07/27/2002 7:12:25 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: dennisw
>>> Where are the braggarts to claim making all these crop circles? Nature of a prank is to want to get some credit for it

Like those Nessie pranksters who waited 60 years to reveal their secrets? Even after their announcement, there were some who still couldn't believe it was all a hoax.

242 posted on 07/27/2002 7:58:04 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: FormerLurker
Actually I have a pretty solid understanding of geometry (mathematical geometry is both redundant and repetative). But believing that a triangle has mystic powers and can bring you closer to nature isn't geometry, it's goofball airhead hippy dippy BS. And these "decodings" are one man's opinion based on his own desperate search for meaning, until you find whoever/ whatever made these things and get THEM to explain it you can't say for certain what it means or if it means anything. If these are messages from alien being then our aliens are pinheads, why not give a useful message, how about a map from here to there, or a picture of them, why kick out some goofy binary something or another that might or might not be message and is heavily open to interpretation? Better yet, if they can sneak in here bend a bunch of corn and sneak out they clearly know our communications frequency and have probably had a good chance to learn a few of our languages, why not just hijack the ABC signal and say hello?

You see no matter how you slice it this doesn't make sense to be coming from an alien being. All the sacred geometry and binary conversions in the world doesn't make these communications. If you're gonna fly halfway across the galaxy to give a message to a planet with 6 billion people on it you're going to want to give the message in a way most of them will understand and accept as genuine. The ammount of flack you're taking on this thread shows that crop circles clearly are NOT acheiving that. Therefore they are not alien messages.
243 posted on 07/27/2002 8:11:45 AM PDT by discostu
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To: PatrickHenry; dennisw; galt-jw; Momaw Nadon
Relax. Help is on the way. Everything will be explained to you.

Like I said, you guys are REALLY into anal probes. Did you ever stop to think that the "abduction" phenomenon might just be a false memory from MKULTRA activities?

From Alien Abductions Via MKUltra to an Implanted Cyber-Situation

244 posted on 07/27/2002 8:20:39 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker
Seems to me they would have noticed a big assed UFO.
245 posted on 07/27/2002 8:26:58 AM PDT by discostu
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To: galt-jw; FormerLurker; dennisw; Dengar01; PatrickHenry; longshadow; BMCDA; balrog666; VadeRetro; ...
In possibly related news:

F-16s Pursue Unknown Craft Over Region

246 posted on 07/27/2002 8:32:01 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: FormerLurker
Like I said, you guys are REALLY into anal probes. Did you ever stop to think that the "abduction" phenomenon might just be a false memory from MKULTRA activities?

Actually, a more likely result from CIA/MKULTRA activities would be your apparent beliefs and attitude on this subject.

247 posted on 07/27/2002 8:36:46 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: FormerLurker
NO hoaxer could create a perfectly symmetrical and geometrically precise formation as we've demonstrated here,

Why not? Look at what mankind already has done when properly inspired. Mount Rushmore. The Goldengate Bridge. The various building known as The World Trade Center. La Sa Grande Familia. The space shuttle. Men on the moon.If there's anything the art, architecture and science of this world shows is that there is NOTHING we can't do if we really wanted to. A person can draw one of these on paper, therefore a team of people CAN draw one in a corn field. We lay down symetrical buildings bigger than these things all the time, and they're in 3D and need to have loads and strengths calculated. The only question is can it be done overnight without being caught. And anybody that's watched a multifunction stadium be converted knows that if you throw enough trained people at a problem it can be done in less than an hour. So that leaves the only question as can it be done without getting caught.

248 posted on 07/27/2002 8:38:08 AM PDT by discostu
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To: FormerLurker
Did you ever stop to think that the "abduction" phenomenon might just be a false memory ...

Did you ever stop to think that mere humans have been creating geomretrical designs in the countryside for centuries, without alien help?


249 posted on 07/27/2002 8:38:11 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: michigander
Looks to me like the latest democrat redistricting map for DuPage County.
251 posted on 07/27/2002 8:47:39 AM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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To: FormerLurker
Also lacking is the celluar changes, background EM/RF emissions, and elevated radiation levels.
SHOW ME a spectrum analyzer showing this increased EM/RF "activity" and I *might* believe you ...

Until then this is only oft-repeated hearsay ...

252 posted on 07/27/2002 9:06:41 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: mhking
Post #48 - LOL!!!!!!!!!
253 posted on 07/27/2002 9:10:35 AM PDT by ward_of_the_state
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To: FormerLurker
You probably have no idea what "sacred geometry" really is..
An allusion to pure pseudo-scientific pabulum from someone who probably can't change his own flashlight's batteries without detailed instructions pulled off a website ...
254 posted on 07/27/2002 9:16:03 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: FormerLurker
Fig 8. Honestly, it just leaves you speeechless [sic].
In awe of gullibility would be more like it ...
255 posted on 07/27/2002 9:19:07 AM PDT by _Jim
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To: michigander
Is that a picture of the incident near Chicago? That would be tough to do without being noticed. My old boss and I spelled something once with a cover crop we were planting, and it took some skill (from my boss).
256 posted on 07/27/2002 9:23:40 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: Biker Scum
Frat boys don't have enough skill or industry to make those patterns. Doing something like this takes some thought, and requires sober minds.
257 posted on 07/27/2002 9:30:41 AM PDT by agrandis
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To: Confederate Keyester
At Stonehenge in 1996 (left), a pilot reported seeing nothing unusual while flying above the monument, yet 15 minutes later this huge 900 ft formation resembling the Julia Set computer fractal, and comprising 149 meticulously layed circles, lay beside the well-patrolled monument.

The pilot wasn't looking for anything unusual, so why would he be expected to notice the formation? Besides, I thought it happened at night, so how would any pilot, driver, or hiker notice or care?

It took a team of 11 ­including myself ­no less than five hours just to survey the formation.

So what? How do you know the makers didn't take 3 weeks to lay it out before finally showing up to squash the plants?

258 posted on 07/27/2002 9:36:27 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: Travis McGee
I worried MUCH more about unknowingly crossing into a bull's pasture than waking up the farmers,

I lived near a cattle farm that bordered my "burb" or subdivision as they were called back then and they usually had some Brangas and Angus and Brahmin bulls penned off in 5 -10 acre lots. We would of course go and taunt the bulls. Funny thing about bulls...one day they will act like you are not there. The next day they will try to crush you into the fence. I can imagine a rowdy bull being rather aggravated by a slinking group of you and your pals easing thru his domain at night. That would have made a funny video. You and your team scampering across a field with a bull in pursuit. I suppose you guys were encouraged to avoid local livestock casualties if at all possible..lol. I bet your average farmer would be rather suprised to find his bull the next morning shot to hell by fire bursts. That combined with alien crop circles could drive one over the edge.

259 posted on 07/27/2002 9:42:47 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: FormerLurker
Right before "Things to Do":

Notice that earlier we defined Phi2 as Phi+1 and here we have g2 = 1–g or g2+g=1.

We can solve this in the same way as for Phi and we find that:

g =

and the math shows no square root symbol--at least on my browser.

260 posted on 07/27/2002 11:12:18 AM PDT by boris
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