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Watch it, bud. I mentioned on a thread a couple of months ago that I'd want a pre-nup before getting married, and man oh man did I get flamed! I wish I had a dollar for every time some sister Freeper told me something to the effect that "marriage is all about trust, and you should be willing to take that risk for love". When I mentioned that I wouldn't trust the women I meet with money for the next pitcher, I heard "well, it must be your fault for attracting the wrong type of woman".

Married Freepers just don't understand how slim the pickings are these days...whether at the local pub or the local church, most young, single women in this nation are Oprahtized, confused, money grubbing dingbats (or worse) that any man with a brain wouldn't have anything to do with! I know because I've dodged the bullet twice now. I'd like to think that "she" is out there, but the more I date and the more women I meet these days, the more pessimistic I get. If you're in college, I imagine you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Okay, flame away, you happily married folks who haven't been in the dating game for years.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

No flames here, gentlemen. I'm in complete agreement with you.

I'm 38, divorced, employed, have custody of my nine year old daughter, and I'm going to school to finish my degree. The women that I have have met that are my age in my local area either don't want to get involved with a man with a daughter as young as mine (tough luck - we're a package deal), or they've got a chip on their shoulder as big as Texas - that, or they're seriously unstable.

What I always found laughable was the young women at school that were dating some absolute a##holes - guys that were verbally and physically abusive, guys that were dating more than one woman - and making a point of letting everyone know - and the women complaining about it. If he's so bad, why stick with him? And the answer, almost every time, would be "Oh, I know he'll change," or "well, there's no one else."

I've seen both my little sisters slam dunk their Ex's.

If the urge to lock on a ball 'n chain ever fells me, there will be a titanium prenup.

But then I'd have to change my screen name. : (

When I mentioned that I wouldn't trust the women I meet with money for the next pitcher,
I heard "well, it must be your fault for attracting the wrong type of woman".

Let that stuff just slide off your back.

I have a cousin in Dallas who's an electrical engineer and owner of a small, lucrative
Internet/database connectivity shop.
He's been a church-going fellow all his life, but been repelled by the way in which
women he's dated seem to always (and quickly) put a dollar-valuation on him.

He's into his mid-thirties, says he's not going to marry until he's got
a substantial fortune stacked away...given that what you earn/own before marriage
has some protection in Texas, a community property state.

I understand folks that give the "all about trust" speeches on marriage...
I would not want to live in a world where people didn't generally have that sentiment.
But the view must be tempered with the realization that the divorce and child-custody laws
have been rigged to extract the maximal (in some cases >100%) of the worth of the
male in the relationship.

"Married Freepers just don't understand how slim the pickings are these days...whether at the local pub or the local church, most young, single women in this nation are Oprahtized, confused, money grubbing dingbats (or worse) that any man with a brain wouldn't have anything to do with! I know because I've dodged the bullet twice now. I'd like to think that "she" is out there, but the more I date and the more women I meet these days, the more pessimistic I get. If you're in college, I imagine you know exactly what I'm talking about."

The picking aren't any better for us women. It's scarey out there. The men are just as money-grubbing, and just as confused.

I do think that a large number of young women these days are rather selfish. Many will act as though they can do nothing wrong, and that you're the one that has the problem, all the while you've been a perfect gentleman.

This doesn't describe every young woman, and there are a few out there who are genuinely dignified, and who want a man that will lead.

My suggestion? If you're a Christian, attend a Christian Singles Praise & Worship within your respective city. At some of these gatherings, there are upwards of 1,500 single Christian women, so you have a good chance of meeting a good woman.