Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.
In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:
Our discussion has been light:
It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog
However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB
Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr
Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog
Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB
Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed
To the very philosophical:
…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla
To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…
…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB
Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog
…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1
Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed
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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom
…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253
Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed
So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.
I'm sort of spinning my wheels... doing a little work, then a little FReeping, then back to work...
The last major part of this project is getting the last load of de-installed PCs ready to ship out. They go out tomorrow morning... once they are gone, I will just be sitting around waiting to see if any trouble develops on any of the new PCs. Basically, fireman duty! Until then, though, I do have some real work to do...
I just don't want to! :)
That's a good idea... perhaps we can all pledge to keep the old Hole "spoiler free" until everyone has had a chance to see the movie?
I just caught up on the posts. Man, you all were busy this weekend. I really enjoyed chatting with Hair and OT on Friday night, it was a real disappointment to have to log off due to Glen's grumbling over my clacking of computer keys. :(
ItsOurTimeNow - When I was pregnant with Alyson, my HCG levels were so low that the only way they discovered a had a viable pregnancy was to do an internal ultrasound. I was 7 weeks along at the time. My levels did not reach "normal" until I was at the end of my first trimester!!! So, don't worry too much and most importantly, do not let Mrs. Hamfist fret at all!!
Hair - I'm glad the storm was not as bad as it could have been! *whew!* And as for the senior canine citizens in your household, when they finally do cross the Rainbow Bridge, you can definitely take comfort in the fact that you gave them a better life than most pooches outside of Beverly Hills! *grin*
Corin - glad to hear things went OK. Fill us in on the details later after the "bored" meeting!
2J - are you back yet? Check in to let us know you are fine!
g'nad - LOL @ free on Tuesday night! I am taking tomorrow and Wednesday off. My mom agreed to watch the kiddies on Tuesday night so Glen and I can catch the sneaky-peeky preview. Then, on Wednesday, it will be the same as when I go tot work with the exception that I will be leaving a bit later in the morning!
I will try to post my review on Tuesday night, but please keep in mind that it will be 2 in the morning and the late hour combined with my post-TTT viewing giddiness may make for some confusing reading! :)
In other news, once again, my home computer has been infected with a virus. Glen, bless his heart, would trust an attachment from the devil himself. Needless to say, the JS.Exception.Exploit virus is alive and kicking at home. My dad is working on removing it today. I have not had a chance to install ZoneAlarm yet since everytime I get online, it is simply to discover yet another special surprise from Glen's last surfing expedition. And I do know what he's looking at when he gets them. Grrrrr.....
OK, I posted all responses to avoid another funkle! :)
On to breakfast: it's chilly here in Miami today, so a hearty meal is in order.
Pancakes with maple syrup: 
Belgian waffles: 
Bacon, sausage, toast and eggs: 
Of course, hot fresh coffee: 
and orange juice: 
ENJOY!!
Also, regarding Zulu. Have you tried giving her some Nutrical? It's a brown paste that comes in a tube. It's very sweet and promotes appetite, as well as, contains some valuable nutrients in a high calorie form.
I used it all the time when I fostered baby kittens and it really helped put on the pounds and made them hungry as can be. When I weaned them, I would mix a bit into the soft food to get them to eat it, being that they were familiar with the taste and smell of the Nutrical already. After their eating habits became satisfying, I would stop giving the Nutrical and that was that.
They should carry it at the feed store. If not, your vet definitely has it.
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Canine Red Cell Liquid Vitamin-Iron-Mineral Supplement formulated to provide a reliable source of blood building ingredients and appetite stimulants for show and hunting dogs, racing Greyhonds and old debilitated dogs. 1 tsp. per 10 lbs. body weight. Kennel feeding: 4 oz. to 10 lbs. food. |
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PC-Cillan has a free trial period, but you do have to buy it after . I guess it was $50.
Well, my thought was that we could post all the stuff about TTT in the "new" New Hole, and keep the "old" New Hole spoiler-free.
Did that make sense? :) Anyway, I'm off to lunch!
The one you have has a lot of variants, Classified as a hoax virus in that they don't tend to be very harmful in the long run. They seem to change your IE startup page and call it good.... a couple of them do more.
There are instructions for removing each of them though:
Trend Micro - Security Info - Virus Encyclopedia - Search Results - JS.Exception.Exploit
If he doesn't already know about that!
Certainly! - I like to talk about weather. I hope in my life to one day see a tornado, and stand in a hurricane. I have gone to the ocean to watch storms and chased thunderstorms here, but it ain't the same!
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