The New Hobbit Hole

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

He is wonderful.... You are a very lucky Hobbit, Rosie....

[RosieCotton]

Now if he'd only come back...

[2Jedismom]

And to think...your unassuming Sam is going to the most important character in the movie.

He can handle it!

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

the despised characters of Pilate and Judas

I always felt sorry for them, too.

[RosieCotton]

Though I can't help thinking...if that one line ("I made a PROMISE, Mr. Frodo!") tears me up so bad...what is this next movie going to do? Painful.

[2Jedismom]

I wonder how they'll do it with Gollum? I think the whole scenario is going to be emotionally crushing.

[Corin Stormhands]

Well it's the wrong forum to discuss it. But I wonder if they had a choice in their actions.

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

the despised characters of Pilate and Judas

I always felt sorry for them, too.

Me too....

[2Jedismom]

If you ask my opinion, which I note you're not, I'd say that picture of the hobbits and Gollum looking at the Morannon is the final scene of the movie...since we know Shelob is in ROTK.

[Sam Cree]

I like them all. But if I had to choose one for heroism, I think it would be Frodo. He perhaps understood the best of all the hobbits the horror of the ring and of the quest, the desperation of the chance they were taking, yet he battled his fear with quiet determination as best he could 'til the end.

[Corin Stormhands]

I think the whole scenario is going to be emotionally crushing.

I can't help wondering how TTT will end. I mean, yeah we know the story, but we're practically basket-cases waiting for the second movie.

I don't think hearing Arwen say "there is still hope," will be enough to keep me from being depressed all next year...

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

I hope they keep some of the scenes which show the Smeagol side of Gollum, like the one quoted above... that's what makes the character so poignant, IMHO...

[Corin Stormhands]

Yes, Frodo for heroism. Sam's enduring qualities are loyalty and love for his friend.

Frodo, and even Merry and Pippin share much of those qualities, but they're each given different tasks, different burdens to bear. And they all carry them admirably.

[Corin Stormhands]

Gotta run. Save that quadruple precious for me...

[Sam Cree]

"the Mrs. just hit that stage where she's wonderin' if this is a good idea"

I remember my wife thinking the same thing, about an hour before my daughter was born.

She was at the stage of labor called "transition" where they don't make much sense and, in her pain, said to me, "I've had about enough of this s#$t! let's go home! It was too late to go home though, and we soon had a baby girl. After that I did go home and celebrate with a vodka while my wife slept at the hospital.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Well it's the wrong forum to discuss it.

OK, I'll say no more... :)

[2Jedismom]

Yet I believe even when the hobbits and Gollum see the Morgul King coming out of Minus Morgul and pause, sensing something...I believe even then, (influenced by the Ring) Frodo intended to claim the Ring and attempt (vainly and foolishly) to challenge the Eye.

He knew that the Ring would only betray him, and that he had not, even if he put it on, the power to face the Morgul-king-not yet.

[rightwingreligiousfanatic]

Frodo, and even Merry and Pippin share much of those qualities, but they're each given different tasks, different burdens to bear. And they all carry them admirably

Well said...That's it in a nutshell.

If I see the triple precious while you're at practice tonight, I'll...uh...save it for you.... Yeah, right....that's the ticket...

[ksen]

But I wonder if they[Pontius Pilate & Judas] had a choice in their actions.

Since Jen isn't around (she's missing an awful lot of good conversation), I would say of course they had a choice. We all do.

[Sam Cree]

"If you ask my opinion, which I note you're not"

My (23 year old) son always cracks up when Gimli says that :-)