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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: carton253
Okay....will do.
17,061 posted on 08/06/2002 11:10:53 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
I didn't get the DVD, I got the video. I have ordered the special gift set in November... I haven't got a DVD player yet... Will get one in the Christmas sales...

They say the two publications will be the same except for the director's cut.

I would be very interested in how they bring Gollum to life.

17,062 posted on 08/06/2002 11:11:22 AM PDT by carton253
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To: carton253; 2Jedismom
You can download it... 2J? - wanna tell her how, since you have it all set up?
17,063 posted on 08/06/2002 11:23:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carton253
They say the two publications will be the same except for the director's cut.

You may want to take a look at the review I posted earlier today. The reviewer said that none of the special features on the August DVD will be on the November DVD.

That said, you'll probably be able to pick up August's DVD at a cut-rate price by then if that turns out to be the case.

17,064 posted on 08/06/2002 11:39:17 AM PDT by ksen
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To: carton253
My friend bought the DVD today and brought it back to work... I just finished watching it. THE TWO TOWERS IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO ROCK. How much longer until December?

Plus, I saw some the snippets for the extended cut. The gift giving was in there. All those who were afraid that Sam wouldn't get a rope - he does. And Gimli is properly in love with Galadriel.

Plus... there is a $10 rebate for the gift set. Use that against the huge discount of Amazon and you can get it very cheaply.

17,065 posted on 08/06/2002 11:39:42 AM PDT by carton253
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To: ksen
Thank you for that head's up. I will buy the DVD off E-bay then when E-bay is gutted with them, and you can pick it up for next to nothing.

Today was the first day I saw a DVD in action... I have been missing out.

17,066 posted on 08/06/2002 11:41:08 AM PDT by carton253
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To: ksen
of course gutted should read glutted. Note to self... proofread, proofread, proofread.
17,067 posted on 08/06/2002 11:46:09 AM PDT by carton253
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To: All
Quiet in here...am I the only one not off sneaking a peek at the DVD...hmmmmm?
17,068 posted on 08/06/2002 12:13:39 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: RnMomof7; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed; JenB; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Corin Stormhands; g'nad; ...
RnMom's question: I heard a blurb on the radio of a book written on the Lord of the rings..it is about how fantasy can point to Christ.

My answer:

Of course fantasy can point to Christ, there is nothing inherently diabolical about that particular genre.

Lord of the Rings was not intended to be a distinctly Christian allegory like The Chronicles of Narnia. Although Lewis and Tolkien were friends, I have heard that Lewis' friendship with Tolkien was instrumental to his conversion to Christianity, I think they had two different motivations for writing the things they did.

Lewis' stories were written in, what seems to me, an Apologetical manner. He attempted to present the Gospel in a manner that would reach all sorts of different people. Reading Narnia you can't help but see Christ and the Gospel.

Tolkien, on the other hand, wrote with the great themes of Christianity in mind i.e. life, death, good, evil, friendship, love, hate. He may not have had storylines and characters that could be directly traced to the Bible, but they were there indirectly.

Just reading The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit will not give you a sense of the big picture that Tolkien has placed his characters in. To get that you need to read The Silmarillion. In that work you are told of the greater forces that are at work in LoTR. You have the one Creator God, his two classes of servants: the Valar, and the Maiar, the story of how the greatest of his servants desired to serve himself and rebelled against the Creator God, the creation of the world, the creation of Elves and Men. It is really quite fascinating. I could detect threads of thought in The Silmarillion that were distinctly patterned after what we, as Christians, believe.

I hope that helps. If you want, come ask your Tolkien questions over on The Hobbit Hole. There are people there that are much more knowledgeable about Tolkien than myself. ;^)

I just wanted to share this with you all so that I could get your feedback to see if I was way off base with my answer.

17,069 posted on 08/06/2002 12:16:01 PM PDT by ksen
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To: Corin Stormhands
I am here... being quiet...

I like the snippets that show the actors explaining some of the concepts, explaining the story. It confirms for me that they did, in fact "get it", and were not just parroting lines they didn't understand.

Viggo says, in the featurette on the Ringswraiths says, in part "...They have no memory of what they were..."

I think that is really very good.
17,070 posted on 08/06/2002 12:24:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
What thread did that appear on? - I will follow the answers, out of curiousity... I am pretty sure she won't come here to ask questions...
17,071 posted on 08/06/2002 12:27:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
I think your response was excellent.
17,072 posted on 08/06/2002 12:30:06 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Quiet in here...

I'm actually working so I can pay off all that stuff I bought last weekend. :)

17,073 posted on 08/06/2002 12:30:34 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
It confirms for me that they did, in fact "get it", and were not just parroting lines they didn't understand.

I think that's what made them believable.

17,074 posted on 08/06/2002 12:31:26 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; ksen
Promise? ;-)
17,075 posted on 08/06/2002 12:31:58 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: ksen
I just wanted to share this with you all so that I could get your feedback to see if I was way off base with my answer.

Oh, man! I can't believe you said that! Just kidding. :)

Things are slowing down around here, half an hour to go, and I'm feeling a bit Tookish.

17,076 posted on 08/06/2002 12:33:31 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen
The book she is talking about may be

Finding God in the Lord of the Rings
by Kurt D. Bruner, Jim Ware
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0842355715/102-1743843-6546540

OR

Tolkien's Ordinary Virtues : Exploring the Spiritual Themes of the Lord of the Rings
by Mark Eddy Smith
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830823123/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/102-1743843-6546540


17,077 posted on 08/06/2002 12:33:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
What thread did that appear on?

The NeverEnding Story post #21713.

17,078 posted on 08/06/2002 12:34:27 PM PDT by ksen
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To: Overtaxed
I'm actually working so I can pay off all that stuff I bought last weekend. :)

I'm here too, but I'm distracted this afternoon...wonder why? ;-)

17,079 posted on 08/06/2002 12:34:57 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; ksen
Actually, it was probably my freshan research paper "Christlike Symbolism in The Lord of the Rings" written many, many, many ages ago...
17,080 posted on 08/06/2002 12:36:30 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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