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HAWAII VOLCANO potential landslide etc. QUERY about interest
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Posted on 03/11/2002 1:38:16 PM PST by Quix

Have received/read several articles--including one scientific report on the Hawaii volcano--about impending quake type stuff supposedly going to happen within the next 1.5 months and some within the next year.

IF

there is sufficient interest, I'll try and dig them out of my HD and post the better ones.

"sufficient interest" to me would be more than 3-4 replies.


TOPICS: Outdoors; Religion; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: dreams; earthquake; hawaii; visions; volcano
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To: Quix
Here's a link to an article about the massive Yellowstone volcano and historic eruption scope. Doesn't sound particularly near in time. . .

On the other hand, IF as some have contended God was telling them . . . and as some Scriptures might be construed as indicating . . . the world is going to see volcanos in places never seen before, dormant ones thought long dead coming to life etc. . . perhaps . . . interesting things COULD happen from even Yellowstone's awesome source.

21 posted on 03/12/2002 2:57:01 PM PST by Quix
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To: Quix
Thanks for the follow-up. I am more interested in the scientific angle. There is a one hour documentary on these Hawiian land slides out there somewhere.
22 posted on 03/12/2002 3:48:17 PM PST by blam
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To: Quix
Please count me in, Quix....but like blam, I prefer some science with the dreams.
23 posted on 03/12/2002 11:39:18 PM PST by brat
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To: brat; blam; quix
I feel the same way as brat and blam, quix. I love the scientific stuff.
25 posted on 03/13/2002 5:11:25 AM PST by Slip18
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To: wasfree
WELL, I sure don't have much of a clue about timing on much of anything but maybe my classes and tomorrow's sunrise/set. . . and I haven't found any prophetic type who seemed to have a reliable handle on timing either. . . though I keep expecting such to rise to the top at some point. God sure knows. And He is able to get the message across to even dullards when it's a priority to do so.

There's been a LOT of msgs exchanged about the enemy of our souls wanting to get WWIII started before God's time on it. . . . and evidently Iraq is a REAL hazard on that score. . . . some saying we must stay out--personally--in my own opinion, Iraq ought to have been dealt with better the first time but what do I know.

Anyway--Some--quite a few, actually--have asserted that natural disasters hitting the U.S. would convince the China/Russia/Arab/North Korea/Lybia etc. axis that the time was ripe to invade.

And, we know from experience, The Bible and history that prayer has influenced major battles as major disasters in terms of timing, direction, destructiveness etc. (Others can fill-in those gaps if they wish. I have other fish to fry).

My own impression about the above article etc. is that there really is a MUCH increased vulnerability in terms of multiple quakes of great seriousness on the West Coast. I suspect we MAY see something before the end of April is out. But I think it's more probable that a series of such will occur over the rest of the year.

I (and a number of much better known folk) believe there's a link between the devastations the U.S. suffers and our attitude and treatment of Israel. Recently, we went on record for the first time in support of a Palistinian state at the U.N. If that perspective has a lot of validity, I'd think we ought to be seeing something "interesting" within a few weeks.

I also suspect States and Cities will reap what they've sown accordingly. Hawaii has had some interesting positions vis a vis abortion; legalized special treatment for the homosexual sub-group; some greater visibility and intensity in old "other gods" directions; etc.

California and Oregon seem to have been cruising for a bruising for some time in terms of values--rebellion, arrogance, selfishness, giving God the finger in a variety of ways. Seattle is not much behind, if at all.

So, I could easily see a series of devastating quakes up and down the West Coast and Hawaii--including knocking the Rhode Island sized chunk to the ocean floor. But part of me thinks that may be held back for the more wholesale devastations to descend on the whole globe.

In terms of waiting with anticipation for volcanos to go off. . . I think I've had enough of such. I was in Spokane when Mt St Helens made mid-day dark as midnight. . . and we had to wear masks and leave our cars imobilized. . . and shovel very heavy ash off of roofs. . . . and that was relatively a small event. . . . and Spokane was clear across the State of Washington from Mt St Helens.

And I went to school at NAU in Flagstaff. . . . loved those San Francisco Peaks. . . . but the last time they went off, they devastated an enormous area. . . . 45 miles would have hardly been safe at all. Then Yellowstone covered most of the U.S. with ash.

And I'm often struck by how big some of the rock masses are which are tossed around as though they were popcorn. Mt St Helens did a bit of that. A house sized rock would make a bit more than a dent on a Mercedes. I haven't done a careful check, but as I recall, there have been volcanoes which have thrown very significant bolders much further than 45 miles.

IF, as some assert, volcanoes are going to be competing with meteors for darkening the sun and causing the moon to appear red, we might do well to pray earnestly for fewer and less than excitedly waiting for more.

However, certainly Mt St Helens was exciting. Quite an EVENT. . . . and thankfully quite survivable. . . . for Spokanites. . . . but it was easy to see in the midst of it how very serious such events can be.

If the Hawaii land mass goes down, isn't it plausible that walls of water 150'--300' may well be hitting long stretches of coastline all around the pacific? . . . especially in the critical directions? I think that might require more than snorkling equipment to ride out.

For conjecture, let's assume that a moderate scenario becomes the case. That enough earnest prayers are offered up that some quakes are moderated in intensity; some epicenters are adjusted away from major population centers. And maybe even a quake or two is negated or much delayed.

Let's assume that "only" 3-4 major quakes of 7.5 or greater intensity hit major areas of the West Coast within days of each other. Let's assume that Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and LA are devastated to varying degrees. . . perhaps San Diego or Hawaii instead of Portland.

Let's assume a minimum of 30-45% of the buildings and bridges collapse. . . . the world would have suddenly changed yet again.

What kind of shape would our Navy be in? Would the terrorist cells choose that time to add to the chaos? Would that be sufficient devastation to entice China to invade? Or would tsunami's damage enough of China's Navy facilities to cause them more than pause? Would our military facilities be resilient enough to still defend the West Coast in a reliable way? Would the military be too tied up with helping victims to do a credible job of watching our coasts?

What if Hoover Dam is breached in such a sequence of quakes? What would the loss of power and water devastation add to the South Western chaos? Would this be sufficient to cause us to pull in our forays internationally? Would this be sufficient to cease such forays more or less entirely? Would the EU or China fill the vacuum? If such would not be sufficient to curtail our international exploits, what additional devastations would do it?

I think of such--considering that prayer on devastating matters is probably a worthy use of at least some time. It may well be too late to pray most effectively once the major quaking starts. . . . and at some point, start it will.

I saw an interesting alternative to usual conjectures on the Tribulation, the "Rapture" and the thousand years of Peace. . . . someone had put 3.5 years of The Tribulation before the 1,000 years of peace and 3.5 years of it at the end during the time when satan is loosed for a bit to give those born during the Tribulation to be truly tested/afforded genuine free-will. I haven't examined the scenario at all, really. But I think of nothing off the top of my head Biblically--which would prevent such a sequence of events. Can anyone else?

It has seemed to me for some time that the time of God's utter wrath upon the world was likely going to come at that time. If the old world and Heavens are to pass away, it seems to me, such destruction must be after the 1,000 years of peace.

Given that--what is the level of devastations one might expect on this end of things?

Certainly more questions than answers.

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY,

Blessings,

26 posted on 03/13/2002 5:59:55 AM PST by Quix
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To: Quix
FROM DISCOVERY.COM AT:

http://tlc.discovery.com/tlcpages/volcano/america.html

I DIDN'T KNOW AMERICA IS 3RD RANKED IN VOLCANIC ACTIVITY AFTER JAPAN AND INDONESIA!

After Japan and Indonesia, America the Beautiful is the third most volcanically active nation on the planet. Fully 10 percent of the Earth's 1,500 potentially active volcanoes are right here in the U.S. of A. That's right — some of those "purple mountain majesties" could blow their stacks at a moment's notice. Fortunately, our volcanic heritage is confined to the Ring of Fire — that glowing hot region of volcanism along the Pacific Rim. Unfortunately, this includes the entire state of Hawaii, most of Alaska, parts of California and the Pacific Northwest. And, if you happen to live in the Seattle-Tacoma area of Washington State, that picturesque mountainous backdrop — Mount Rainier — has been designated public enemy number one on the United States Geological Survey's list of potentially lethal volcanoes.

27 posted on 03/14/2002 10:30:20 AM PST by Quix
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To: Mike Darancette
ANOTHER INTERESTING PARAGRAPH FROM THE ABOVE MENTIONED DISCOVERY.COM ARTICLE:

The Nightmare Scenario The key to a nightmare scenario on Rainier is the mantle of glacial ice and snow that cap the mountain. There is more snow and ice covering Mount Rainier than on all other Cascade Range volcanoes combined — 25 times more than what covered Mount St. Helens when it erupted. All of that frozen water presses down on the increasingly unstable and weakened rock of Mount Rainier. An eruption would be preceded by a rise in geologic activity, giving scientists time to sound the alarm before raging torrents of mud and debris raced once again into the lowlands. But scientists now know that even a moderate earthquake, or even just gravity alone, could cause one of Rainier's unstable slopes to fail, sending mudflows cascading into the river valleys below with little or no warning. Thousands would likely be killed. Of the six major mudflows to reach Puget Sound in the last 5,000 years, only one was caused by an eruption of the mountain. If an event like the Osceola mudflow were to occur today, well over 2,000,000 people could be in danger.

28 posted on 03/14/2002 10:35:55 AM PST by Quix
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