[Paladin2]

The GOPee [compleat with Long TDS] really deserves/has earned no support.

Unfortunately, the alternative is yugely/bigly way worse.

It’s a totally stinky choice.

[nathanbedford]

Trumps resolution to prevail in barring Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, even at the cost of losses in the midterm elections, is commendable.

If he is to be faulted for the conduct of this fight over seven months it should be for the following reasons: 1) failure to anticipate that Iran could and would close the Strait of Hormuz; 2) suspensions of bombing, in favor of negotiations; 3) failure to continue bombing while negotiating; 4) delay in imposing a United States blockade on ships attempting to export or move Iranian oil and goods; 5) discontinuing active coordinated operations with Israel; 6) failure, early and extensively, to secure cooperation by cooperating nations to impose sanctions against Iran; 7) failure to arm dissident Iranians; 8) denying Kurds' ambitions to attack Iran; 9) flip-flopping on stating war aims concisely and precisely; 10) flip-flopping on bombing/negotiating; 11) failure to advise and enlist European allies, especially NATO, to cooperate in the fight; unnecessarily antagonizing potential allies in Europe and elsewhere with off-putting braggadocio and belligerence, especially respecting Iceland.

Against all this, we have the transcendental fact that Donald Trump, alone among presidents, has found the courage to actually interdict by armed force Iran's nuclear potential, and that decision, because existential, is historic.

[redinIllinois]

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[Beowulf9]

He has the worlds most sophisticated equipment to spy, eavesdrop. I wonder if this isn’t because he has heard something, knows what’s up and it’s the driving force. Heard through the lies.

We’ve seen how they treat their women, their children. Should we expect we should be treated any better? We are, in their own words, ‘the infidel’ and it’s okay to lie to ‘the infidel’.

[equaviator]

"But privately Trump is skeptical Iran would meet his demands and has told his staff that he sees a renewed bombing campaign as likely, the officials said."

A former Hanoi Hilton POW ('67-'73) once told me that if he and his fellow Americans who were finally released hadn't played by their own rules, they'd never have gotten out of there alive or dead.

Trump plays by his own rules and rightly so. We're seeing in nearly real time what it means to be an American President and Commander-in-Chief. That's almost unheard of anymore. There is an old American saying from the American Revolution that seems to fit and it's this--"Providence favors our undertaking (Annuit cœptis)."



People who don't trust Trump or take him seriously are missing the boat, and that ship will soon set sail not for a fundamentally changed America, but for the better days that lie ahead.

[nonliberal]

Ukraine is hitting Russian diesel plants with money and weapons the US and
Clown World provided and is driving the diesel price higher that it has ever been and gas prices are well north of $4 a gallon. Trump has funded his third impeachment.

[nonliberal]

Ukraine is hitting Russian diesel plants with money and weapons the US and
Clown World provided and is driving the diesel price higher that it has ever been and gas prices are well north of $4 a gallon. Trump has funded his third impeachment.

[Lockbox]

And that’s how you negotiate with Iranians!

[MachIV]

“he expects to resume bombing Iran after the November midterms, U.S. officials said.”

I cannot imagine that lasting very long since Democrats will likely be retaking control of congress and their 1st order of business will likely be to do the same thing to the Iran conflict they did to Vietnam in 1973....end it by defunding it...abruptly.

[Captain Walker]

President Trump has rejected Iran’s proposal for a seven-day ceasefire and has told aides he expects to resume bombing Iran after the November midterms, U.S. officials said.

Anyone trying to engage in theological gymnastics in order to argue that this war is a "just" war need look no further than this. (If it's timed with an election cycle, it's not.)

[Captain Walker]

President Trump has rejected Iran’s proposal for a seven-day ceasefire and has told aides he expects to resume bombing Iran after the November midterms, U.S. officials said.

Anyone trying to engage in theological gymnastics in order to argue that this war is a "just" war need look no further than this. (If it's timed with an election cycle, it's not.)

[PJ-Comix]

President Trump has rejected Iran’s proposal for a seven-day ceasefire and has told aides he expects to resume bombing Iran after the November midterms, U.S. officials said.

Can the IRGC regime even last that long? They are in a desperate situation NOW. Can they make it to early November? Food and fuel is scarce to non-existent. Inflation is approaching 1923 Weimar Republic levels rendering their currency virtually worthless. No wonder they are now desperate for a deal NOW. They must be punching themselves for breaking the ceasefire this past summer.

[catnipman]

this entire article is based 100% on “anonymous officials said”, IOW rumors, which has been the almost exclusive modus operandi of the corporate propaganda media for at least a decade now, because anonymous sources can be made to say anything you want them to say ...

it’s foolish for FReepers to think that these kinds of articles are meaningful ...

[Vermont Lt]

So we get to wait another six weeks and just have the oil prices grind up; and the flow of diesel grind to a halt.

That’s a winning strategy. I am glad we have them right where we want them.