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Knee-jerk Flock panic threatens a tool that’s making our cities safer
NY Post ^ | 8/21/26 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 08/21/2026 3:35:30 PM PDT by Libloather

We have met the enemy — and it is watching us.

There’s a growing backlash against Flock cameras, the automated license plate readers that have become ubiquitous across the country.

The cameras take images of license plates and store them in a searchable database that police departments can query in the course of their investigations.

Opponents of the cameras consider them an instrument of Big Brother, who’s not only watching, but constantly recording and tracking.

Vandals have disabled and stolen the Flock cameras, and even shot them.

There’s a movement to get jurisdictions to cancel their contracts with Flock (the leading such company, but not the only one), and it’s met with some success.

Los Angeles just let its contract with Flock lapse, citing “serious concerns around civil liberties and civil rights issues.”

There’s a reason, though, that police departments so rapidly adopted the cameras — they are an extremely useful investigative tool.

It is certainly true that the technology, like any power we give the police, can be mis-used.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Outdoors; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cities; deflock; flock; panic; security
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Cameras are everywhere.
1 posted on 08/21/2026 3:35:30 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

I can see a validity to cameras in public places. However the tyranny of the recent Covid era shows the ease of abuse. We’d have locked down much harder had they been in place. I think the cure is worse than the disease here sadly although I can see where an honest government could use them properly.

Cops etc are already following exes and so forth. Obviously they are badly abused already and we aren’t even in Chi Com lockdown.


2 posted on 08/21/2026 3:37:49 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Libloather

They definitely need to require a specific and VALID JUDICIAL WARRANT for ANYONE to access Flock databases.


3 posted on 08/21/2026 3:38:57 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-M)
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To: Libloather

Cameras can’t stop crime. They can only help investigation.

For most violent cases, the perps are let right out anyway.

But you can be pretty sure there will be a lot fewer expired tags.


4 posted on 08/21/2026 3:39:51 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Persevero

Blame the abuser and not the tool.

I can kill someone with a hammer. Ban them?


5 posted on 08/21/2026 3:41:21 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Sen. John Thune is a bigger enemy to the GOP than any Democrat.)
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To: All

I wouldn’t it too much if I trusted the government
however I don’t


6 posted on 08/21/2026 3:43:42 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Libloather

How long before the are used to ticket for speeding , running a redight, hurrying through a yellow light, unsafe lane change, expired tag and so forth?


7 posted on 08/21/2026 3:46:15 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Libloather
Yes, they are everywhere and they're controlled by private entities who can sell the data they collect to anyone.

Go to DeFlock.org to see a map of all the Flock (and other company's) cameras in the U.S.

8 posted on 08/21/2026 3:47:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Marxist Media works hand in glove with the Democrat terrorists.)
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To: Libloather

It is interesting to watch the reactions Police have to the “mobile flockers” who call themselves 1st amendment auditors,

and compare that to what they want to do to us.

The cops love cameras, but only the ones they control.

https://x.com/scottenlow/status/2090061223618597068/video/


9 posted on 08/21/2026 3:49:24 PM PDT by algore ( )
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To: House Atreides
They definitely need to require a specific and VALID JUDICIAL WARRANT for ANYONE to access Flock databases.

You know these companies will fight that tooth and nail because it would drastically reduce their revenue streams.

10 posted on 08/21/2026 3:49:53 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Marxist Media works hand in glove with the Democrat terrorists.)
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To: House Atreides
They definitely need to require a specific and VALID JUDICIAL WARRANT for ANYONE to access Flock databases.

That would be a start but imo not enough. If police decide they need to track your vehicle, and can convince a judge of it, and get a warrant, they can place a tracker. Flock and similar systems open more information to them than that process does. They don't get to track you retroactively before the date of the warrant, for one thing.

11 posted on 08/21/2026 3:51:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Libloather

Look what China did with the surveillance state and their social credit system. China used Google to help put their system together. Don’t think that Flock, Google and the AI centers are not doing the same thing here.


12 posted on 08/21/2026 3:51:31 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Libloather

I have a mixed feeling about this. I can see its usefulness and also the drawbacks. Pluses are a useful tool for law enforcement. Negative drawback is less and less privacy and how your travels could be used against you.


13 posted on 08/21/2026 3:51:37 PM PDT by Omnivore-Dan (have to )
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To: escapefromboston

I would trust these cameras more if the government owned and controlled them but they don’t.


14 posted on 08/21/2026 3:51:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Marxist Media works hand in glove with the Democrat terrorists.)
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To: Libloather

TV molds the mind of the future...

For years we’ve seen Black Guy - White Girl starring roles in 50% of the movies we see. Now, there has been a surge in Arab Guy - White Girl in the past 10 years... The hole time, all movie plots display and depend on state of the art Traffic Camera’s, imperative in catching the bad guy or saving the victim. People, and I’ll use an old term describing the people of today perfectly, The Eloi... The Eloi just walk their walk in a trans, not knowing any better whatsoever...

These cams are here to stay. and The Eloi will make sure of it for their own safety...


15 posted on 08/21/2026 3:54:55 PM PDT by sit-rep (I may be Dumb, but I'm not Stupid!)
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To: fruser1

“Cameras can’t stop crime. They can only help investigation.”

I think you are right. Cameras are not going to prevent many murders; but cameras can help to identify murderers, convict them, and get them off the streets.

Locking up murderers in prison - which more and more people oppose - does help to prevent future murders.

Whether or not murderers have an expectation of privacy on a public street is another matter. I don’t think they do.


16 posted on 08/21/2026 3:56:15 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Persevero
an honest government

BWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

If people were capable of forming an honest government, we wouldn't need government.

17 posted on 08/21/2026 3:56:27 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Libloather

Safer?

For who?


18 posted on 08/21/2026 3:56:36 PM PDT by null and void (Mongo just prawn in buffet of life)
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To: Libloather

the anti flock camera peeps are just the same old defund the police people.


19 posted on 08/21/2026 3:56:51 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: MtnClimber

Exactly - we WILL ALL be under AI SURVEILLANCE

China-style - whether we want to or not

I’m sure that TPTB would never misuse such...

safe AND effective


20 posted on 08/21/2026 3:57:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They Did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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