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To: rlmorel; Alberta's Child
Once of the worst trends on this forum lately is a large and noisy faction that combines an anti-Vance hatefest with an equally mindless pro-Rubio lovefest, even though Rubio is just Lindsey Graham or John McCain in a slicker (though much less intelligent) package.

Much of the hatred towards Vance has been stirred up by the likes of Mark Levin, who foam at the mouth at any deviation in US policy from what Netanyahu demands (i.e. Vance dared to question whether Netanyahu's aims in the region really align with ours), and to a lesser extent the smarmy, self-righteous Ukraine obsessives, who just can't forgive Vance for saying that he (quite reasonably) doesn't really give a damn about Ukraine.

85 posted on 08/07/2026 7:41:03 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

You are 100% correct there.


87 posted on 08/07/2026 7:42:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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To: ek_hornbeck
I'd point out here that Mark Levin stopped posting on FR in May of 2016 after he had been engaged in a string of loony anti-Trump diatribes against other Freepers in the midst of Trump's first GOP primary campaign.

Good riddance to that deranged clown.

92 posted on 08/07/2026 7:44:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

I honestly don’t understand this Vance-Rubio antagonism except in the prism of a past campaign mindset.

Conservatives should consider themselves fortunate to have men like them on our side and in consideration of a Presidential campaign.

I personally admire both of them, and Rubio was the most surprising for me, as I did not care for him in the past.

But he has fully subjugated himself to the team agenda, and has done it so thoroughly as to win my full respect, and the respect of many other conservatives.


95 posted on 08/07/2026 7:48:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est)
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To: ek_hornbeck
"Much of the hatred towards Vance has been stirred up by the likes of Mark Levin, who foam at the mouth at any deviation in US policy from what Netanyahu demands (i.e. Vance dared to question whether Netanyahu's aims in the region really align with ours), and to a lesser extent the smarmy, self-righteous Ukraine obsessives, who just can't forgive Vance for saying that he (quite reasonably) doesn't really give a damn about Ukraine."

You may notice a little overlap between those two groups. On the Ukraine crowd--notice how largely absent they are on threads about the anti-democratic doings in Hungary and the EU when before they were crowing about Orban's ouster.

105 posted on 08/07/2026 8:07:32 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: ek_hornbeck
a large and noisy faction that combines an anti-Vance hatefest with an equally mindless pro-Rubio lovefest, even though Rubio is just Lindsey Graham or John McCain in a slicker (though much less intelligent) package.

Re your opinion that Rubio is less intelligent than McCain—would you please provide more evidence why you believe that?

139 posted on 08/07/2026 1:20:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. --DJT)
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