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Corrupt and Despotic Ukraine Is Not Worth Fighting WWIII - This war is about money, not saving ‘democracy.’
American Thinker ^ | 1 Aug, 2026 | J.B. Shurk

Posted on 08/01/2026 4:45:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Seeing Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelenskyy at Senator Lindsey Graham’s funeral seemed fitting: Z-Man’s money-laundering operation in Kyiv was the proximate cause of Graham’s death. Had the senator not been working so hard to add to the butcher’s bill in Europe, he would still be alive today. Surely there is a lesson here for some people to see.

I know there are plenty of pro-Ukraine cheerleaders who just cannot stomach any criticism of an ongoing military conflict that has now lasted longer than WWII. However, I have never seen this as anything other than a civil war that British, European, and American globalists have exploited for monetary and geopolitical reasons that have nothing to do with the sovereignty of Ukraine.

Ukraine is not a member of the European Union. It is not a member of NATO. If Ukraine’s diminutive dictator wishes to turn what’s left of his country into a parking lot, so be it. Let the weight of this folly fall on the head of a comedian who has led his country to slaughter and will leave it a rump of its former self. When the war finally ends, the multinational investment firms will recycle the carnage into reconstruction profits. Ukraine will be stripped and sold for parts. Its people will live in other countries. Foreigners from Asia, Africa, and the Middle East will be dumped into Ukraine by the millions to make up for the rump state’s depleted workforce. Ukraine will never look the same. And future historians will wonder why a comedian was allowed to destroy an entire nation.

It’s not as if the Ukrainian people have had a choice in this matter. Elections have been canceled. Public dissent is outlawed. Opposition political parties are outlawed.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: GOPJ

The FIRST thing the Z-man did was closes the borders so men of military age were NOT allowed to leave.


Didn’t work, plenty of fighting-age Ukrainian men in Poland partying it up.


61 posted on 08/01/2026 7:16:59 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: MtnClimber

We shouldn’t have one single dollar being sent to Ukraine by our government. Doesn’t mean I am a “Putinista” and it doesn’t mean I am a supporter of the “Globalhomo Ukranians”.

I am quite glad to see the Russian government getting its face pushed in by Ukraine, since Putin is the leader of Russia, and he is an unrepentant KBG scum. His spots have never changed. He just put on a different suit.

But Ukraine is not our friend. Their government only pretends to be in order to extract money from us.

I don’t forget all the corruption that was benefiting the Democrats before (and after) Trump’s first term.


62 posted on 08/01/2026 7:21:49 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est)
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To: tlozo

If the US didn’t overthrow Ukraine’s elected government there never would have been a war. Now Ukraine will never get back Crimea or the Donbas region. Maybe more.


63 posted on 08/01/2026 7:22:19 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Kudsman
Was NATO formed as a trade organization?

NATO has guaranteed 75 years of peace in Europe, a volatile area, which has allowed our trade with it to flourish.

64 posted on 08/01/2026 7:22:35 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: MtnClimber

It’s not about corruption.

If we had interests there, corruption would not matter.

Since we have no interests there, it’s all been a waste.


65 posted on 08/01/2026 7:23:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tlozo

Oh, absolutely no one is asking Trump to intervene in Ukraine because the answer is a hard no

They are trying to manipulate and maneuver the US into a position where the political pressure to intervene in Ukraine is overwhelming

The though that the US should provide our most sophisticated and top secret nuclear ballistic missile defense technology to a corrupt and insecure Ukrainian government is patently absurd and will never happen

I would be in favor of impeachment against Trump and removal from office if he did so

Whether or not you wish to acknowledge the fact, use of micro yield tactical nukes is central to Russias current military doctrine and Russia has recently deployed the missiles to achieve these goals

Russia does not even need micro nukes because they have seemingly developed accurate and effective kinetic weapons with similar destructive capability to a micro yield weapon

Hope you are happy living in a bombed out, demographically altered Ukraine populated by the same third world trash that is destroying the EU and being robbed by Globalist carpetbaggers intent on buying up the Ukraine for pennies on the dollar and stealing its riches from the Ukrainian people because that’s the future of Ukraine if they do not come to term with Russia


66 posted on 08/01/2026 7:26:33 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead)
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To: tlozo

America did that. You’re welcome.


67 posted on 08/01/2026 7:26:51 AM PDT by Kudsman (4728)
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To: GOPJ
I don't think there's a dime's worth of difference for the Ukrainian people living under a dictator like the Z man or a dictator like Putin.

Ignorant statement. Recent protests in Ukraine show freedom of speech and protest is respected while in Russia it is the cause of immediate arrest.

Freedom of Speech in Ukraine vs Russia

68 posted on 08/01/2026 7:27:47 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: Mariner
If we had interests there, corruption would not matter. Since we have no interests there, it’s all been a waste.

Trump says US can 'take whatever we want' from Ukraine minerals

US President Donald Trump said Washington holds the right to access Ukraine's rare earth mineral deposits at will under a bilateral agreement signed last year, stating the arrangement allows the United States to seize resources freely while establishing a joint investment fund.

https://en.yenisafak.com/world/trump-claims-us-right-to-ukraine-rare-earth-minerals-3721422

69 posted on 08/01/2026 7:32:24 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: Kudsman

For myself, I believe that NATO should have ended when the Soviet Union collapsed.

The threat to America is across the Pacific, not the Atlantic. The Europeans will definitely decide to sit it out when it materializes.

The child-molesting chocolatiers from Brussels cause more trouble than they are worth.


70 posted on 08/01/2026 7:32:40 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: rdcbn1
Hope you are happy living in a bombed out, demographically altered Ukraine

NP, have lived all my life in the US, thanks

71 posted on 08/01/2026 7:34:00 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: GOPJ
Its people will live in other countries. ...

That wasn't my comment. You must've meant to send it to another FReeper. But ...

Ukrainians voted overwhelmingly to NOT be ruled by Russia anymore.

Sending American soldiers there to fight is not worth the risk and I don't remember anyone advocating it. Certainly not me.

You should learn the difference between a democrat and a Democrat.

72 posted on 08/01/2026 7:37:47 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN and HATE-DRIVEN, not-truth driven)
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To: rlmorel

“””””But Ukraine is not our friend.”””””

Our relationship is friendly enough that we have troops in Ukraine being trained by them and we buy their weapons and use their help with our military and allies in the Middle East while having them set up factories to make military weapons in America.


73 posted on 08/01/2026 7:37:59 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: tlozo

So you don’t even have to live with horrific consequences of the war and post war reconstruction that the people of Ukraine are dealing with

Figures🙄

Tell ya what , I’ll buy you a shiny new Bren 3 assault rifle and a one way ticket to Ukraine so you can live your fantasy on the Ukrainian front lines .

Seriously, I will


74 posted on 08/01/2026 7:41:31 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (..when poets buy guns, tourist season is over................Walter R. Mead)
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To: ansel12

They also deployed some SOF capability to Afghanistan & Iraq.


75 posted on 08/01/2026 7:42:10 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

NATO has been looking at the Pacific and dipping their toe (barely) into some military exercises and such, and part of Trump’s decade long effort to strengthen NATO is pressuring them to look outside of Europe more, as we are seeing in the Middle East, currently NATO can keep Russia limited if China attacks us and with their massive military weapons buildup and filling warehouses, they can serve as a weapon reserve for us, with new military budgets and increased manpower and weapon manufacturing they are moving to it will be easier to get them to look at how the problems for and threats to Europe include looking at the Pacific.


76 posted on 08/01/2026 7:50:28 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: rdcbn1
The though that the US should provide our most sophisticated and top secret nuclear ballistic missile defense technology

Please, your always arguing from an extreme position; nuclear war or now our most sophisticated missile defense technology. There is another easy choice, transfer older weapons and technology to Ukraine.

There is an older variant of the Patriot missile Ukraine could produce, pac2 which the US does not use anymore.

With weapons, our Air-force routinely retires old drones and planes. In storage we have 8,000 of Vietnam era M113's Pentagon is decommissioning at great cost due to asbestos, instead of handing them over to Ukraine.

The Cold War Fleet Heads To The Boneyard

The Air Force has been aggressively retiring planes this year, as it did in 2025, and while it will slow down the pace next year, the service is still planning to send many older aircraft to the boneyard.

https://simpleflying.com/usaf-quietly-shrinking-below-5000-aircraft-1st-time-history/

77 posted on 08/01/2026 7:51:03 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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To: tlozo

Most of the so called ‘protests’ in the United States are “rent a mob” - I doubt it’s any different in Ukraine.

So you think if a few hundred people are ‘organized’ that Americans should pay for their war? Gimme a break.

If American ‘elites’ want to launder their money there and get high paying jobs for the drug addicted whore monger sons, then THEY can foot the bill for the ‘war’. There’s over a hundred wars going on in the world last time I checked. It’s a hell of a lot cheaper to ‘rent a mob’ than to pay billions for weapons and soldier blood. We also need to get out of NATO - it’s another ‘we give and they get’ with lies, polls and rent a mobs. Time for all of us to grow up.


78 posted on 08/01/2026 7:52:57 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Illegals are NOT immigrants anymore than thieves are house guests")
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To: tlozo
Elections in Ukraine were suspended due to martial law, which was declared after Russia's full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022. Ukrainian law prohibits holding elections while martial law is in effect. Wikipedia BBC

The Z man suspended all elections shortly after the war started. That's one of many thug choices that screams 'this is not a free country'...

79 posted on 08/01/2026 7:57:31 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Illegals are NOT immigrants anymore than thieves are house guests")
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To: rdcbn1
So you don’t even have to live with horrific consequences of the war and post war reconstruction that the people of Ukraine are dealing with...so you can live your fantasy on the Ukrainian front lines .

LOL, supporting the decision of Ukrainians to fight for their own independence is evil? Okay

As to hypocrisy, I also believe in our border security, must I then join the Minutemen Project and guard the border otherwise I'm a hypocrite? Not sure where you came up with the whole "live your fantasy" nonsense.

80 posted on 08/01/2026 7:57:36 AM PDT by tlozo (“Russia war-Either money today or blood tomorrow," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk )
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