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What DSA members are too ignorant to understand.
The Vietnam War | 2017 | Ward & Burns

Posted on 07/24/2026 10:34:26 AM PDT by Renkluaf

The following is an except from the Epilog of the book:

Le Duan [Party First Secretary] resolved, with Soviet help, to turn all of Vietnam into what he call an “impregnable outpost of the socialist system.” Hanoi forcibly collectivized agriculture in the South, virtually abolished capitalism, nationalized industries, and appointed planners to run it all along strict communist lines.

The result was economic disaster. Inflation rose as high at 700 percent a year. People starved. “Nothing was more terrible then those ten years after the war,” Bau Ninh [Vietnamese novelist] remembered. “Our living standard collapsed completely. It was terrible. During the war people could accept hardship. But after the war, it was caused by the huge mistakes of the Stalinist economic policies, the economic problems of communism.”


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Apparently, the warmth of collectivism failed yet again.
1 posted on 07/24/2026 10:34:26 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

Of course with the collectivization of agriculture, transportation, and distribution, the so called problem of population will be solved. About 50% of the people will die of starvation. 60% if the people in charge have majored in women’s studies or sociology.


2 posted on 07/24/2026 10:38:58 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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No link. Looks like it’s about this?

The Vietnam War
Geoffrey C. Ward, Ken Burns
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33512518-the-vietnam-war


3 posted on 07/24/2026 10:41:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The Demagogic Party is just a collection of violent, rival street gangs.)
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To: Renkluaf
"It wasn't true Socialism. True Socialism has never been tried. The wrong people were in charge. It was opposition from the Far Right that ruined it. Or the Jews. Or the white males, except for white male Socialists, who are OK because Socialism makes everything OK."

The story's already been written. The magic of Socialism is making the chumps think it's new.

4 posted on 07/24/2026 10:44:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Renkluaf

They understand it perfectly and are looking forward to the day they can go full Khmer Rouge on the people they hate.


5 posted on 07/24/2026 10:57:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Israel First. America... who cares?)
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To: Billthedrill

I know right? How many times have we been told that the theories of Marx and Engels just have never been properly implemented?

But now, Mamdani and his guys are going to lecture us about the warmth of collectivism, and he’s going to implement it properly???

Stay tuned
...


6 posted on 07/24/2026 10:58:38 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, couldn’t find one. Thx.


7 posted on 07/24/2026 11:05:20 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Renkluaf

I was one of the first yanks legally back in Vietnam in ‘94, it was amazing. It was a place frozen in time of ‘75 but everything was 20 years older. It had just begun to realize the folly of the communist plan and the change had begun.


8 posted on 07/24/2026 11:30:31 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Opinions and belly buttons, everybody has one and they get to show them if they want to.)
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To: Renkluaf

The warmth of collectivism burned up the economy.


9 posted on 07/24/2026 11:38:32 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"-Voltaire)
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To: Renkluaf
What DSA members are too ignorant to understand.

jeez how much time do you think i have?
10 posted on 07/24/2026 11:50:11 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: Sequoyah101

How about that? It seems a number of formerly strict communist countries have made free market reforms, and their countries are better off for it.


11 posted on 07/24/2026 12:05:57 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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12 posted on 07/24/2026 12:52:55 PM PDT by Nateman (Democrats did not strive for fraud friendly voting merely to continue honest elections.)
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To: Renkluaf

Lefties never ever learn from history and millions and millions have to die.


13 posted on 07/24/2026 1:00:10 PM PDT by Chgogal (There is no entity more arrogantly ignorant than a White Liberal Woman.)
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To: sauropod

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14 posted on 07/24/2026 4:05:57 PM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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