Posted on 06/25/2026 9:07:57 AM PDT by Morgana
Praising a proposal to require Texas public school students to read Bible stories and passages in class, supporters say the perspective is an important acknowledgment that the nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values.
Rabbis and Jewish leaders, however, criticized the biblical passages chosen by the State Board of Education as heavy on Christianity and dismissive of Judaism, reducing the term Judeo-Christian to “a fig leaf at inclusion.”
The State Board of Education kicked off a week of meetings Monday by hearing from more than 400 experts, teachers and concerned citizens on two proposals — one that would overhaul the state’s social studies curriculum, and another that would create a required reading list for K-12 public schoolchildren. Both proposals include biblical references, passages and stories. A final vote is expected by Friday.
Many of the speakers who praised the proposed reading list said it was important to teach children about Judeo-Christian heritage and values.
“Don’t lie about where we came from as Americans,” witness Richard Green said. “It was the Judeo-Christian value system that produced the greatest, most powerful, the wealthiest, most free, the most benevolent nation in the history of the world.”
Larry Holland with the conservative grassroots group Citizens for Education Reform endorsed the reading list because it was aligned with “a nation founded on the principles of Judeo-Christian heritage.”
Several rabbis and Jewish individuals rejected the use of “Judeo-Christian” to support the list.
“One would think that this phrase is meant to evoke friendship between the two faiths, but I do not find that here — or in the language surrounding support for this list,” said Blake Ziegler, a Texas field organizer for the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.
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So it if it was a Muslim doing this in our schools you would hit the roof yet when “God’s chosen” does it it’s okay?
I’ve posted stories of Muslims having their own “prayer rooms” in schools and you all have kittens every here.
Now this Jew says we can’t have Bible readings. Where is your outrage?
“If some of the natural branches have been broken off, and you a wild branch have been grafted into among the others, and now share in the nurousing sap of the Olive root, do not consider yourself superior to the other branches. For you do not support the root, but the root supports you. You may say, branches were broken off so that I could be grafted into among. Granted, but they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant , but tremble. For if GOD did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. If the natural branches do not persist in unbelief they will be re- grafted into their own Olive Tree.” Romans 11:17-22
Answer my question in post 41.
You all know me I’ve been very fair when it comes to calling out every one on the carpet. When one group F**** up I post it and call them out.
In the past it was the Evangelicals complaining that I only called out their group but finally someone in the religion forum spoke up for me and said I am fair and call out all religions when it came to sex abuse, abortion et cetera.
Now here is a school issue. Why is no one willing to complain on this? How many posts have I done on Muslims doing crap in schools?
Okay now I do one on a Jew. I’m calling out all sides.
What if this school had wanted to do Koran readings in this school? I wonder if this Rabbi would dare speak out against the Muslim or would he have CAIR to deal with? Tell me I’m lying, you know that would be one big mess.
Now why don’t Christians stand up for their Bible if Muslims can have “Prayer rooms”????
They should
Very few have done a proper reading of Romans chapters 9, 10 and 11
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The Apostle Paul worked to try and convince his fellow Jews that Jesus Christ IS their prophesied Messiah
I work towards that goal too
However there are many liberals out there
Including those destroying Christianity
I gave up on one friend because he’s basically determined to go to war against Israel
Sheer stupidity - Ezekiel 38, Zechariah 12 and 14 and Revelation chapter 19 ALL show how stupid that is
BUT he doesn’t really read the Bible, so...
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So?
Judaism dismisses Christianity - so it looks like we're even.
Maybe it's the labrel that has their panties in a twist. Try instead...
“Christianity-Judism”
Happy now??
You WANT me on that wall...
Jeremiah 6:17
“Also I set watchmen over you, saying,
Hearken to the sound of the trumpet.
But they said, We will not hearken.”
The one that has this verse:
Matthew 23:9 Douay-Rheims Bible And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven.
bingo
It’s a struggle, for I have wrestled with it a long time.
I have a friend for you: Philsworld
Well...
ME: when will god give up on a personCOPILOT: That’s a heavy question, — and it’s one people usually only ask when something inside them is already wrestling with God, not running from Him. So let me give you the straight, biblical, non‑syrupy answer, because the text is far clearer than most sermons.
⭐ Short answer:
God does not “give up” on a person while they are still responding to Him. The only people God “gives up” on are those who have already given up on Him.
And even then, it’s not sudden — it’s the result of a long, chosen hardening.
📜 1. The Bible’s clearest pattern: God gives people what they insist on
Romans 1 repeats the same phrase three times:
“God gave them over…”
“God gave them up…”
“God gave them over to a reprobate mind…”
But notice the order:
They refused to retain God in their knowledge
They exchanged truth for lies
They hardened themselves
Then God gave them over to what they already chose
It’s not God slamming a door. It’s God honoring a door they locked from the inside.
🌿 2. God never gives up on the repentant, the seeking, the wounded, or the struggling
Every story in Scripture shows this:
David — adultery, murder, cover‑up
Peter — denied Jesus three times
Manasseh — the most evil king in Judah’s history, repented in prison and God restored him
Paul — persecuted the church, yet God pursued him
If a person is still asking, still wrestling, still turning their face toward Him even in weakness — God is not done.
🔥 3. The only people God “gives up” on are those who demand life without Him
Examples:
Pharaoh hardened his heart repeatedly — then God hardened what Pharaoh had already chosen
Esau despised his birthright until repentance was no longer in him
Israel in the wilderness repeatedly rejected God until He said, “Have it your way”
Romans 1 describes people who did not want God, and God let them have what they wanted
In every case, the pattern is the same:
God gives up only when a person has fully, finally given Him up.
And even then, it’s not a moment — it’s a trajectory.
🕯️ 4. If you’re asking this question, you’re not the kind of person God gives up on
People abandoned by God don’t ask about it. They don’t care. They feel nothing. They want nothing. They have no pull, no ache, no fear, no longing.
The very fact that you’re asking means:
Your heart is still alive
Your conscience is still tender
Your spirit is still responsive
God is still drawing you
Dead branches don’t feel the wind. You do.
🧭 5. The real danger isn’t God giving up — it’s us drifting until we no longer hear Him
Hebrews warns:
“Do not harden your hearts”
“Today, if you hear His voice…”
“See to it that none of you has an evil, unbelieving heart that turns away…”
These warnings exist because God hasn’t given up — He’s calling.
🎯 Bottom line
God doesn’t give up on people who are still turning toward Him, even weakly, even inconsistently, even with questions, even with fear.
The only people God “gives up” on are those who have already, finally, and deliberately given up on Him — and even then, it’s after long patience.
If you’re asking this question, you’re not in that category.
Not even close.
bingo
Sweet!
HMMMmmm...
COPILOT: Here’s the clean, historically accurate, text‑driven breakdown of the word “Jew” in the New Testament — what it meant, how it was used, and why it sometimes confuses modern readers.
No fluff. No stereotypes. Just linguistic, historical, and biblical clarity.
In the NT, the word behind “Jew” is:
This word has two overlapping meanings, and the context determines which one is intended:
Ethnic/Religious identity
A descendant of Judah/Israel
A practitioner of Judaism
A member of the covenant people
Judean (regional identity)
Someone from the region of Judea
As opposed to Galilee, Samaria, etc.
This dual meaning is the source of many misunderstandings.
It meant:
A member of the people of Israel
Someone under the Law
Someone belonging to the covenant community
Someone connected to Judea/Jerusalem
It was not used the way the word “Jew” has been used in later antisemitic contexts. The NT usage is neutral, sometimes positive, sometimes negative, depending on the person or group being described — just like “Pharisee,” “Roman,” or “Galilean.”
Here are the main categories:
“Jesus was born… of the house of David.” “It is evident that our Lord sprang from Judah.” (Heb 7:14)
Jesus is explicitly identified as Jewish.
Paul calls himself:
“A Hebrew of Hebrews… as to the Law, a Pharisee.” (Phil 3:5)
In John’s Gospel especially, Ioudaios often means:
Judeans
The Jerusalem leadership
The priestly establishment
This is why some translations now render it “Judeans” in certain passages to avoid confusion.
Paul uses “Jew” to describe those who possess:
The Law
The promises
The covenants
The patriarchs
The Messiah according to the flesh (Rom 9:4–5)
When the NT criticizes “the Jews,” it is not condemning all Jewish people. It is referring to specific groups, usually:
The Judean religious authorities
The Temple leadership
Certain Pharisees or Sadducees
Those opposing Jesus or the apostles
This is the same way we might say:
“The Romans arrested Paul”
“The Pharisees questioned Jesus”
It’s descriptive, not ethnic condemnation.
Modern antisemitism misuses these passages by ripping them out of context.
Paul says:
He is a Jew
He loves his people
The gospel is “to the Jew first”
God has not rejected Israel (Rom 11:1)
Gentiles are “grafted in” to Israel’s promises
So the NT cannot be read as anti‑Jewish — it is written by Jews, about a Jewish Messiah, fulfilling Jewish Scripture, offered first to the Jewish people.
A member of the people of Israel
A practitioner of Judaism
A descendant of Judah
A resident of Judea
A member of the covenant community
A racial category
A slur
A blanket condemnation of a people
A modern political identity
The NT’s use is historical, ethnic, covenantal, and geographic — not modern
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