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To: Sacajaweau

If I was born in Africa...and both my parents are English, and we come to the United States, I am not African American...I am English.


The quibble is over what ‘African-American’ means. Like many things dealing with race, things apparently don’t mean what the definition of the words mean.

‘Black’ doesn’t refer to a person’s skin color (many from India are much ‘blacker’ than people descended from Africa) but rather means someone whose ancestors are from sub-Saharan Africa, no matter what their actual skin color might be.

‘African’ apparently doesn’t mean someone from the continent of Africa, but rather someone from sub-Saharan Africa who happens to also be ‘black’. People from Egypt or North Africa who become Americans are not ‘African-Americans’.

Elon Musk was born in Africa. He became an American. Logic would say he must be, in some sense, an African-American. But apparently, that label is reserved for those whose ancestors, or at least one of whose ancestors might have been sub-Saharan African.


40 posted on 06/15/2026 9:27:40 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

I’m working on the NYS census for 1810...part of the Federal Census. It lists Free blacks.


48 posted on 06/16/2026 8:18:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: hanamizu
that label is reserved for those whose ancestors ... might have been sub-Saharan African.

Reserved by whom? The same group that tells people they can't use the word niggardly or thug and definitely can't use a word that they themselves use all the time. Logic trumps that nonsense.

57 posted on 06/16/2026 8:43:56 AM PDT by ladyjane
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